Wendouree allocations and general discussion

So a follow-up to my earlier post about my order form being delayed. I called Aust Post yesterday to find out what's going on. 40mins on hold and then disconnected. I called back and spoke with a staff member who said it was still in the sorting centre for some reason going around in circles. She initiated an intercept request for someone to manually post it on and it should be there by Tuesday next week. Anyway I called Wendouree this morning to explain that my order arriving late was in no way reflective of enthusiasm for their wine and they told me they had received my order 4 days after I posted it, contrary to the Aust Post tracking info. Phew. Here's hoping.
 
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Second year running receiving my letter that there are no allocations and I'm added back to the list for next year.

Second year running receiving my letter that there are no allocations and I'm added back to the list for next year.
My first 2 years were the same, then got an order form in year 3 but didn't receive anything. It was 4th year lucky for me last year.
 
Can anyone let me know in 20 years time how the 24b ages compared to the standard
So, I cracked a few cabs last week and found the more recent vintages very approachable, bordering on quite light. The older ones deeper and richer and more full bodied.

I have a friend who also worked thru a vertical of recent and aged Malbec and also said the same "The modern wines are lighter in style than years gone by."

We both agreed that the younger wines didn't appear to have the backbones of yonder, to be able to age like have done in the past.

Anyone else experienced this?
 
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Happy Shiraz day to all.

Here are some initial reviews of some 2023 vintage Wendouries
 

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Happy Shiraz day to all.

Here are some initial reviews of some 2023 vintage Wendouries
It's a concern that the prices listed aren't even correct!

But, most interesting thing for me is the 2027+ drinking window.

Wendouree always was a never drink now wine. But hey, some drink Grange and coke!
 
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Here are Shiraz and 24b reviews.
Only 2-3 years to go to the drinking window!
 

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Here are Shiraz and 24b reviews.
Only 2-3 years to go to the drinking window!
Thanks for these @olympicwiz

I think these reviews and near term drinking windows affirm my earlier comments about the wines these days being lighter and more approachable at a young age than yesteryear. I dont know why, and I don't think it is purely down to vintage. The style has changed/evolved.

The Wendouree wines have traditionally been considered 'long termers' (and historically they have been!). Id say for this reason, people have been hesitant to get a look in whilst young. I myself probably have traditionally only had a sniff once they're 5-10 yrs, with the aim to keep for long term...

But... my recent Cab vert., and my friends Malbec vert., and other comments from friends is that whilst the wines these days (say since 2015) may go the distance (Gaz suggests 10-20) they are better/best at 5-10... not 20+

I for one, will be drinking what I have sooner than later and not keeping for the long haul.

My view/my opinion 😁
 
Thanks for these @olympicwiz

I think these reviews and near term drinking windows affirm my earlier comments about the wines these days being lighter and more approachable at a young age than yesteryear. I dont know why, and I don't think it is purely down to vintage. The style has changed/evolved.

The Wendouree wines have traditionally been considered 'long termers' (and historically they have been!). Id say for this reason, people have been hesitant to get a look in whilst young. I myself probably have traditionally only had a sniff once they're 5-10 yrs, with the aim to keep for long term...

But... my recent Cab vert., and my friends Malbec vert., and other comments from friends is that whilst the wines these days (say since 2015) may go the distance (Gaz suggests 10-20) they are better/best at 5-10... not 20+

I for one, will be drinking what I have sooner than later and not keeping for the long haul.

My view/my opinion 😁

100% agree. They were borderline unapproachable when new 20 years ago, there has definitely been a shift in style.
 
Thanks for these @olympicwiz

I think these reviews and near term drinking windows affirm my earlier comments about the wines these days being lighter and more approachable at a young age than yesteryear. I dont know why, and I don't think it is purely down to vintage. The style has changed/evolved.

The Wendouree wines have traditionally been considered 'long termers' (and historically they have been!). Id say for this reason, people have been hesitant to get a look in whilst young. I myself probably have traditionally only had a sniff once they're 5-10 yrs, with the aim to keep for long term...

But... my recent Cab vert., and my friends Malbec vert., and other comments from friends is that whilst the wines these days (say since 2015) may go the distance (Gaz suggests 10-20) they are better/best at 5-10... not 20+

I for one, will be drinking what I have sooner than later and not keeping for the long haul.

My view/my opinion 😁
I thought that 2023 was a drought vintage so that might play a part in the style? Or has there been a tectonic shift in the philosophy of Wendouree winemaking? How would the 2022 vintage rate for earlier drinking?
 

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