USA Status run

[tiggerboo1]

interesting question.....

if I knew someone else by the name of tiggerboo1, who was out of a job and lived in USA and happy to spend some time traveling, is there anything preventing them doing trips using my ff number to increase status credits..............

other than im sure it is(or should be against T's and C's

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

One problem is that if for any reason, the plane goes down, Tiggerboo1's family will have to be contacted.
And also, does the TSA need photo id and name match for boarding purely US domestic flights?

 

[Princess Fiona]

interesting question.....

if I knew someone else by the name of tiggerboo1, who was out of a job and lived in USA and happy to spend some time traveling, is there anything preventing them doing trips using my ff number to increase status credits..............

other than im sure it is(or should be against T's and C's

One problem is that if for any reason, the plane goes down, Tiggerboo1's family will have to be contacted.
And also, does the TSA need photo id and name match for boarding purely US domestic flights?

I'd suggest that's a bad idea unless you want to see the inside of a supermax.

AP you do need photo ID for US domestic

 

[love_the_life]

I'd suggest that's a bad idea unless you want to see the inside of a supermax.

AP you do need photo ID for US domestic

And besides as tiggerboo1 posted, the person has the same name as them, so the question was about linking more than one individual to a single QFF account.
Suppose an issue may be if the persons were flying at the same time!
Certainly against T&Cs so I take it this is a purely hypothetical question.

 

[kermatu]

Not worth it in my opinion. Far too risky, especially in today's heightened security environment. Even in Oz where you're almost never asked for photo ID, I couldn't counsel against it more strongly.

 

[Hvr]

The other thing to remember is that the person whose account you're using may be subject to an audit and lose their points/SCs etc.

How would the airline know? Well if there is a lot of US travel that is credited to an account but no travel to/from the US then you may be asked to explain how you got there to do the status runs.


If there is no record of travel by any mode then the next question would be can you prove you actually took the flights? Bear in mind that their investigators do know what they're doing and know where to look for anomalies.

Basically a very stupid proposal that will end in tears.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

interesting question.....

if I knew someone else by the name of tiggerboo1, who was out of a job and lived in USA and happy to spend some time traveling, is there anything preventing them doing trips using my ff number to increase status credits..............

other than im sure it is(or should be against T's and C's

In order to earn points the frequent flyer account must almost always exactly match the name on the ticket. If you can find someone else with the exact name as yours to get them through TSA, legal/ethical issues aside, there probably isn't going to be a problem.

There may be legal issues however.

The other thing to remember is that the person whose account you're using may be subject to an audit and lose their points/SCs etc.

How would the airline know? Well if there is a lot of US travel that is credited to an account but no travel to/from the US then you may be asked to explain how you got there to do the status runs.


If there is no record of travel by any mode then the next question would be can you prove you actually took the flights? Bear in mind that their investigators do know what they're doing and know where to look for anomalies.

Plenty of folk travel to the USA and separate tickets internally. They may take an award there. I have flown to the USA many times courtesy of USDM followed by internal flights on AA. While I'm not advocating what the OP is suggesting, I'm also not sure the airline can demand proof of how you got to the USA. If you took the airline to court for refusing to credit you the points, it would probably come out then however.

 

[opusman]

IMO there's no legal issue here as long as that is actually their name.

The TSA is only concerned that the name on your ID matches the name on the boarding pass. Airline loyalty schemes are outside of their remit.

It's definitely against the T&C of the frequent flyer scheme, though.

 

[Cynicor]

IMO there's no legal issue here as long as that is actually their name.

The TSA is only concerned that the name on your ID matches the name on the boarding pass. Airline loyalty schemes are outside of their remit.

It's definitely against the T&C of the frequent flyer scheme, though.

I'd agree with Opusman. No legal issues but definitely not kosher with the FFP. Go for it!

 

[Princess Fiona]

IMO there's no legal issue here as long as that is actually their name.

The TSA is only concerned that the name on your ID matches the name on the boarding pass. Airline loyalty schemes are outside of their remit.

It's definitely against the T&C of the frequent flyer scheme, though.

Secure Flight has names and dates of birth

 

[love_the_life]

Secure Flight has names and dates of birth

So the option would be to find a person with exactly the same name and DOB?
Piece of cake (not).
And anyway against the rules of FF schemes.

 

[opusman]

Secure Flight has names and dates of birth

Sure, but they don't have names, dates of birth and frequent flyer number.

 

[Rourke]

Last year I had a non-refundable F flight, AA SFO-SEA but had to cancel my US trip altogether. Just for fun I downloaded the boarding pass and tried to claim it from QFF. Successful, even though I was on an Aus domestic flight on the same day. 40SC without even being in the country for the flight. YMMV and I don't think I'd make it a habit

 

[Hvr]

Last year I had a non-refundable F flight, AA SFO-SEA but had to cancel my US trip altogether. Just for fun I downloaded the boarding pass and tried to claim it from QFF. Successful, even though I was on an Aus domestic flight on the same day. 40SC without even being in the country for the flight. YMMV and I don't think I'd make it a habit

And you are here boasting here about committing fraud? :!:

 

[mviy]

Also by checking in you may have delayed the flight as they may have waited a little bit to give you a chance to board if you were running a bit late.

 

[Rourke]

And you are here boasting here about committing fraud? :!:

Not boasting, commenting. The flight was paid for, where is the fraud? T&C violation at worst, which would mean no points.

Also by checking in you may have delayed the flight as they may have waited a little bit to give you a chance to board if you were running a bit late.

On a US airline? I guess it's possible. Now I do feel bad.

 

[Rourke]

I should also point out the OP was asking about an idea with a clear security violation that would get them into a lot of legal trouble. I mentioned my experience that did not require someone to fly in my stead. I did not recommend it as a practice. QFF only asked for a boarding pass & a ticket, not whether I flew.

 

[prozac]

I love the audacity of your plan tiggerboo1. Kinda like planning the ultimate Ocean's Eleven heist.
Let me know where to send the file cake.

 

[Mike65]

What if you and they travelled on the same day in different continents? Could all come unstuck........

 

[JohnK]

All of this just for status? Hmmm.