Updated Air Services agreement between Australia and Indonesia

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For the proposed schedules where they're both using the 1234567 notation to indicate the proposed days of operations, that's Monday as 1 and Sunday as 7 isn't it?
I'm pretty sure that's how the IATA system works. So where it's indicated as .23..67 that would be services on Tuesday, Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday.
 
SeaWolf said:
For the proposed schedules where they're both using the 1234567 notation to indicate the proposed days of operations, that's Monday as 1 and Sunday as 7 isn't it?
I'm pretty sure that's how the IATA system works. So where it's indicated as .23..67 that would be services on Tuesday, Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday.
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Yes this is the convention
 
markis10 said:
Personally I would hope VA get the lion share.
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They would have a compelling case.

Both carriers will now need to address additional criteria under Section 9 of the IASC Policy Statement. The 'competition criteria' is a key part of that.

Virgin currently have 4924 seats per week to Indonesia, just under 20% of the allocated capacity. The Qantas Group have 20,076 seats. On those grounds alone, I find it hard to see how the commission could justify giving a lion share of the capacity to the Qantas Group, as it would further entrench their dominant position in the market. Even if they were to evenly split the additional 5000 seats, it would only increase VA's share of the capacity to 24%.

On the other hand, I can also see them prioritising the routes currently unserved by the applicants. I.e., PER-CGK for QF, WSI-DPS for JQ and PER-DPS for VA. There is a case to be made for Jakarta, given it would diversify Aus-Indo options beyond Bali.
 
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On the other hand, I can also see them prioritising the routes currently unserved by the applicants. I.e., PER-CGK for QF, WSI-DPS for JQ and PER-DPS for VA. There is a case to be made for Jakarta, given it would diversify Aus-Indo options beyond Bali.
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Virgin will push the market share and Australian based crew message in its reply without a doubt like they did in the last attempt. Jetstar tried pushing the low cost carrier/market stimulator last time but they disagreed with that take.

I’d like to see more share to DPS/CGK on non JQ metal so I would be happy if Jetstar got nothing out of this.
 
Hey all,

Couldn't find this discussed elsewhere (mods feel free to move or delete if so), but it appears Virgin have left it until the very last moment to apply for additional DPS capacity, under a new recent bilateral arrangement.

There's about 5,000 seats available per week; Virgin have applied for 5,083 per week while Qantas group applied for 4,539 per week.

Interestingly, Virgin want to start PER to DPS with up 17 weekly while also increasing MEL, BNE and SYD frequencies.

Unlikely they'll receive all capacity but thought some of us would find this interesting.

Can find the proposed schedules in the VA application linked below.

Executive Traveller Story here
Virgin application here
IASC page here
 
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markis10 said:
Personally I would hope VA get the lion share.
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They would have a compelling case.

Both carriers will now need to address additional criteria under Section 9 of the IASC Policy Statement. The 'competition criteria' is a key part of that.

Virgin currently have 4924 seats per week to Indonesia, just under 20% of the allocated capacity. The Qantas Group have 20,076 seats. On those grounds alone, I find it hard to see how the commission could justify giving a lion share of the capacity to the Qantas Group, as it would further entrench their dominant position in the market. Even if...
 
There you go, I'm a novice to these forums. I only looked under the Virgin threads - feel free to delete if req.
 

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