United fly most frequently USA <--> Australia

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January 2024 BITRE report now out.

UA had an Inbound load of 70% and an outbound load of 59% across all services.

Rivals:
DL: Inbound: 72.9%, Outbound: 63% (Across the 2 per day (double daily) SYD services)
AA: Inbound: 88%, Outbound 73% (Single daily SYD-LAX).
QF: Inbound 83%, Outbound 74% (Across all services primarily from the East Coast).
Numbers are for non-stop flights only.
Where does QF's SYD-AKL-JFK flight, on single flight number, get counted?
AU to USA (as many will be ticketed) or AU to NZ, given some only travelling SYD-AKL?. Or in NZ govt stats?
Air NZ has a good market for some pax AU-AKL-USA, but 2 flight numbers.
 
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I'm interested in the potential of booking a United flight using Velocity points from EWR to HNL direct in Polaris. I can see 'United First (JN)' availability on the United website but only Economy on the Virgin website on the same date. Is it possible that the United (I) will be released at some stage and at that time it will appear on the Virgin website and can be booked with Velocity points?

Alternatively, we could look at departing the mainland USA from SFO if there's better availability there.

Thanks in advance for any advice.
To be honest, you're unlikely to get saver award space on either route. J on domestic routes to Hawaii are super competitive so airlines rarely have to release saver award space — people are willing to pay higher dynamic prices.

Having a quick look, there's not a single saver seat on either route in either direction for the next 365 days.
 
There appears to be a lot of over stayers or there are a huge amount of RTW flyers! ie those stats are just wrong?
Agree. Its not like from India or China with big numbers of students arriving January. So effectively one way.
For visitors from USA and visitors to USA would expect will even out month to month. May be corrected in Feb when folks go home. And the same stat for Dec may show something
 
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According to the Jan stats from BITRE, United do fly most frequently between Australia and the USA.
CarrierInbound FlightsOutbound Flights
Qantas Airways
215​
208​
United Airlines
225​
225​

These numbers do not include NZ.
So they’ve ignored QF3/4?
 
So they’ve ignored QF3/4?
That specific flight I'm not totally sure on, but United's flights to NZ are definitely not counted.
I would think it counts as a flight to NZ, rather than the USA, since it doesn't operate to the USA from Australia.


That flight does get counted as a flight to the USA. If you look at British Airways in the tables those flights count as flights to the UK, even though they stop in Singapore.
United's flights to New Zealand are definitely not counted though, as they don't continue on to Australia.
 
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That specific flight I'm not totally sure on, but United's flights to NZ are definitely not counted.
I would think it counts as a flight to NZ, rather than the USA, since it doesn't operate to the USA from Australia.


That flight does get counted as a flight to the USA. If you look at British Airways in the tables those flights count as flights to the UK, even though they stop in Singapore.
United's flights to New Zealand are definitely not counted though, as they don't continue on to Australia.
That flight does get counted as a flight to the USA. If you look at British Airways in the tables those flights count as flights to the UK, even though they transit stop in Singapore
 
January 2024 BITRE report now out.


UA had an Inbound load of 70% and an outbound load of 59% across all services.

Rivals:
DL: Inbound: 72.9%, Outbound: 63% (Across the 2 per day (double daily) SYD services)
AA: Inbound: 88%, Outbound 73% (Single daily SYD-LAX).
QF: Inbound 83%, Outbound 74% (Across all services primarily from the East Coast).

Numbers are for non-stop flights only.

Loads for UA weak, we’ve suffered from multiple UA cancelations of late for our business, maybe them trying to consolidate to save money?
 
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United fly most frequently USA <--> Australia, but less next southern summer/northern winter
Link--> United Airlines Updates Winter Schedule, Ending Two Long-Haul Routes — Ishrion Aviation
May or may not be accurate. But not surprising given reported low loads on some flights (all airlines), more capacity and QLD govt subsidies.
United Airlines is set to make updates to its Northern Winter 2024/2025 long-haul schedule. Here are some notable changes I’ve found so far:
  • Los Angeles (LAX) to Auckland (AKL) canceled
  • Los Angeles (LAX) to Brisbane (BNE) canceled
  • San Francisco (SFO) to Brisbane (BNE) Boeing 777-300ER and 777-200ER replaces 787-9
  • Newark (EWR) to Tenerife (TFS) extended from seasonal to year-round.
  • Newark (EWR) to Paris (CDG) flights reduced
United just launched the Los Angeles to Auckland and Brisbane routes last winter, but no longer plans to operate the two for the coming winter. However, United will make up some of the lost Brisbane capacity by upgauging its SFO-BNE route from the 257-seat 787-9 to the 350-seat 777-300ER between December 19 and March 7. Outside of this period, United will operate the 777-200ER on SFO-BNE.
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Another UA AU thread--> New United BNE-SFO route from October 2022
 
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