Uber comes to Australia

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Is there a way I can leave a comment? I feel that the star rating system does not explain the reason for less stars.

Yes there is. When you leave the star rating there is also a comment field. Not only that, you can always email uber about any experiences (positive and negative) and they will respond and deal with things. There is usually an email address for Uber in each city. It's quite easy to find.
 
Last two cab rides....one backed into a parked car, and then did a runner. His details were passed to the police. The next one ignored my instructions on how to get from the airport to my flat....kept saying his way was better. His way was slower, $11 more expensive, and wanted another $8.40 for an unnecessary toll. Told him to shove it...

There are decent cab drivers out there. But most are horrific.
Cabdriving is pretty easy, and a job open to people who aren't qualified for better ones. A lot of the training is "on the job" and there's going to be drivers who are pretty woeful and confused at first. But they improve.

However. There are some drivers who have a poor attitude. As a passenger, I've had a few I'd like to have been able to rate down. Just like as a driver I've had a few passengers I'd like to have rated.

This is where Uber shines over the taxi system. Unless a driver is getting fairly solid five star ratings, they won't last long. An average of 4.6, and you're on the edge. 4.5, and unless you have some pretty convincing explanations, you're off the system.

I'm at 4.94 stars as an Uber driver. I just do what I did as a cab driver. Aim to get the passenger to their destination with a smile on their face. It's pretty easy, really, because that's what the passenger wants, and I do a lot of driving with my ears, as it were. If they want the temperature up or down, I do it. If they want to be the DJ, that's fine. In fact I love it when passengers play their favourite music, I get to hear some really good tunes that way, and I have happy passengers singing along.

Taking directions from the passenger is always good. For one thing, it lets them know they are in control, it keeps them on familiar streets. And, if they often make the same journey, the passenger will know all the lights and shortcuts. I learn a lot of good tricks that way.

But often times, I'll find that the passenger is taking me a longer way than the route I would have picked. I had one elderly gent one weekend afternoon, and he went from a regional shopping centre to his home in the suburbs. He went this way and that, past the school, past the church, up one loop street, down another. I eventually asked him, when we got there, why he had taken that route.

"Oh, that's the way the bus goes," he said. Well, fair enough.

As a driver, I'm loving Uber. The money is about the same, but the passengers tend to be a little more tech-savvy. They all have smartphones, for one thing. The app takes care of a lot of the navigation, and I don't have to hassle with the cabcharge machine or try to make change out of a fifty. Just click the "End Ride" button, give the passenger five stars, and that's it. Passengers love it for different reasons. Water and mints on these hot afternoons, for one thing. Lower costs, for another.

And the ability to rate the driver and give feedback. It's encouraged by the app, and in the email sent after every ride, giving details.

So, if you get an Uber driver who is taking you the long way, has a smelly car, plays loud obnoxious Justin Beiber, or whatever, and doesn't accept instructions to fix the problem, give them a one-star rating and explain why on the feedback form. They won't last long unless they change their attitude.

As an Uber driver, the last thing I want is word of mouth about what a lousy experience it's been.
 
Yes there is. When you leave the star rating there is also a comment field. Not only that, you can always email uber about any experiences (positive and negative) and they will respond and deal with things. There is usually an email address for Uber in each city. It's quite easy to find.
That's yet another positive about Uber. They have all the details on every trip. They know both the passenger and the driver, they know the exact time and route taken. And they will be able to check ratings given by other passengers on the driver.

They can issue credits for fares that look to have been longer than reasonable. Or where there was good reason to complain. Try that with your cab company.
 
So what's with these taxi drivers in the media jumping into\at uber cars on the street to complain it's illegal.... Any passengers had this happen while they are with under driver? Now it's not legal for the uber driver outside of Canberra but as a passenger we can use anywhere in Australia?
How is it going on Europe?
 
Does anyone know why it was recommended / why it was necessary for the NSW government to compensate taxi plate owners at all? Put another way, if the government didn't offer any compensation at all, would there be a possible legal challenge by plate owners to otherwise get that compensation, and on what possible grounds?

I'm not after any opinions whether they should have or should not have, nor how much they should be compensated if so. I just want to know the reasons behind the idea. My only idea is that since the government is responsible for selling those taxi plates, it had some sort of contractual agreements with plate owners that means it must provide some restitution of sorts if it (the government, by its own action) is going to inadvertently decrease the value of a taxi plate holding. Supposedly, legalising ride sharing would be considered such an action.
 
Does anyone know why it was recommended / why it was necessary for the NSW government to compensate taxi plate owners at all? Put another way, if the government didn't offer any compensation at all, would there be a possible legal challenge by plate owners to otherwise get that compensation, and on what possible grounds?

I'm not after any opinions whether they should have or should not have, nor how much they should be compensated if so. I just want to know the reasons behind the idea. My only idea is that since the government is responsible for selling those taxi plates, it had some sort of contractual agreements with plate owners that means it must provide some restitution of sorts if it (the government, by its own action) is going to inadvertently decrease the value of a taxi plate holding. Supposedly, legalising ride sharing would be considered such an action.

I don't think the issue is primarily a legal one - independently of whether the government would be legally required to pay up, there are moral and political arguments for doing so. The government did initially establish the entire market in taxi licences to begin with, so to many people it would seem only fair that if the government intervenes to pretty much completely destroy the value of their licences and the businesses built around them that the government should provide some kind of compensation.

From a legal perspective I suppose there may be some kind of contractual duty, or some argument about "just terms" compulsory acquisition of property rights (if I recall my primitive legal studies correctly, that doesn't even apply to state governments though, only to federal/territory governments). But I don't think it comes down a legal argument, ultimately.

Chapter 10 of the government's official report at http://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/sit...nt-transport-taskforce-report-to-minister.pdf outlines some of the issues.
 
The only remaining issue is that of insurance. Maybe now it's "regulated", a few of the big insurers will sort out something. I'd expect a few uber drivers to be shocked at the cost... I don't see how they make any money as it is.

Probably positive progress. Although it sets a dangerous precedent of a large foreign corporation coming into the country, blatantly breaking the law and then having the regulators change the law to suit them.
 
The only remaining issue is that of insurance. Maybe now it's "regulated", a few of the big insurers will sort out something. I'd expect a few uber drivers to be shocked at the cost... I don't see how they make any money as it is.
Plus a couple other issues such at GST and Income Tax - but that is being addressed.

Probably positive progress. Although it sets a dangerous precedent of a large foreign corporation coming into the country, blatantly breaking the law and then having the regulators change the law to suit them.
Yes huge difference between Uber's actions and those of Frank Penhalluriack - but this is neither time nor place for a history lesson.
 
The only remaining issue is that of insurance. Maybe now it's "regulated", a few of the big insurers will sort out something. I'd expect a few uber drivers to be shocked at the cost... I don't see how they make any money as it is.
Uber drivers in the ACT are using their normal insurance. A few of the big insurers – NRMA, for example – have indicated that they are Uber-friendly.

I'm finding that after accounting for all the costs and taxes, it works out to be pretty much the same hourly rate in hand as for a taxi driver; i.e. not enough to raise a family on, but certainly enough for me to round out my public service pension.

And the working conditions are far superior to taxidriving.
 
I'm not after any opinions whether they should have or should not have, nor how much they should be compensated if so. I just want to know the reasons behind the idea. My only idea is that since the government is responsible for selling those taxi plates, it had some sort of contractual agreements with plate owners that means it must provide some restitution of sorts if it (the government, by its own action) is going to inadvertently decrease the value of a taxi plate holding. Supposedly, legalising ride sharing would be considered such an action.
One might argue that taxi plates sold several decades ago have had a useful life and that the march of technology has rendered them obsolete, along with so many other things from the twentieth century.

Legalising ride-sharing does not render a taxi plate worthless. The taxi industry continues and taxis continue to make money. Taxis cater very well for those without smartphones - such as the elderly - and taxis handle rank work and heavy traffic streams very well. Airport pickups, for example. Ridesharing vehicles may not work from taxi ranks, nor may they accept street hails.
 
Has anyone had any recent experience with using UberX to Sydney airport? Just going from the suburbs to Domestic - is there any different protocol or decorum I should be aware of?
 
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Has anyone had any recent experience with using UberX to Sydney airport? Just going from the suburbs to Domestic - is there any different protocol or decorum I should be aware of?

To the airport, no differences
 
That's good to know. Just had a play with the NRMA insurance website for my car (for interests sake) and adding ride sharing only increased the premium by about $300. Dramatically different to the insurance cost for a chauffeur car
 
Legalising ride-sharing does not render a taxi plate worthless. The taxi industry continues and taxis continue to make money..

And much like any investment, the value is not guaranteed to go up. Consumer demand, competition and government policy can always impact valuation.
 
Quick question/hints: In Bali right now and used uber for the 1st time (ordered when at wifi restaurant).

Questions:

1) does internet actually need to be on from start to finish? As I'm not paying for international roaming.

2) I did get a cost/receipt in the end, but am I doing it wrong (no internet during trip)?

3) After i get dropped off, I just leave with no mobile phone use/sharing with driver?
 
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Quick question/hints: In Bali right now and used uber for the 1st time (ordered when at wifi restaurant).

Questions:

1) does internet actually need to be on from start to finish? As I'm not paying for international roaming.

2) I did get a cost/receipt in the end, but am I doing it wrong (no internet during trip)?

3) After i get dropped off, I just leave with no mobile phone use/sharing with driver?

1. No internet needed after you order ... but is ideal until car arrives as you can 'see' them enroute / arrive
2. No internet needed during trip
3. No internet needed. You will get your receipt when next you connect to the interweb (ability to download from your nominated email address) and then you can also rate the driver at that point

We do the above when travelling international without data roaming (in fact, am about to the exact thing)
 
How is it going on Europe?

Not sure about some other countries, but Uber has pulled out most of its services from Germany (with the exception of Berlin and Munich): Uber Germany retreats to Berlin, Munich | Reuters.


Uber will for now suspend services in Hamburg, Frankfurt and Duesseldorf, it said in a statement on Friday, citing a difficult regulatory environment.
A German court in March banned Uber from running services using unlicensed cab drivers and set stiff fines for any violations of local transport laws by the pioneering online taxi firm.
The company in Germany has since limited itself to drivers that hold a passenger transport license, among other legal requirements, through its UberX and UberBlack smartphone apps, but it has run into a shortage of suppliers of ride services.

The article also mentions some troubles they've had in France, Italy, Spain and Belgium.
 
It's interesting looking at all of the concerns regarding surge pricing on NYE in Sydney. I looked at about 2am for a sydney city to rockdale fare and it was quoting $300-400. I got a cab for $45.

Funny how we all thought uber was the fix to the problem...

Now that state governments are regulating, id say they have an obligation to outlaw this stupid profit grabbing feature of the ap. A taxi has never been allowed to do such a thing
 
It's interesting looking at all of the concerns regarding surge pricing on NYE in Sydney. I looked at about 2am for a sydney city to rockdale fare and it was quoting $300-400. I got a cab for $45.

Funny how we all thought uber was the fix to the problem...

Now that state governments are regulating, id say they have an obligation to outlaw this stupid profit grabbing feature of the ap. A taxi has never been allowed to do such a thing

I agree wholeheartedly. But our governments seem dumb struck. For example no Australian government, state or federal has had the guts to get to the bottom of petrol pricing nor the absurd weekly price cycle that supposedly brings us 'more competition'. No other country in the world allows such garbage. In France they would burn down petrol stations if the companies tried this.

Interesting in Germany, many cities have fought back against uber forcing them to withdraw from cities such as Frankfurt and others.
 
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