Travelling under another name

[TanyaGordon]

I work in a small business with a very tight budget, and losing money is always hard to justify, but when put in this situation (which I have been more than once) you cancel the tix and pay for another one in the other person's name. End of story. I would never ask or expect and employee to fly under another name.

Virgin's Corporate deal would be great, we could get our cash back in this situation, but I can't afford to pay 2 - 3 x the price of the ticket on the off chance that I might have to cancel it.

If you're flying for business then your company should have a corporate travel insurance policy they could claim the loss on anyway.

 

[milocole]

milocole,
The majority of people that post in this forum are mature and extremely knowledgeable concerning travel, fares, status, etc etc. I have read your posts and don't know if you are simply posting for the sake of it, but it would be to your benefit if you wish to gain some credibilty with other people on this forum to only write about things you know about. I travel reguarly, but have virtually no experience compared with others here, so please listen and learn before posting. Please do not get offended, as I am only offering a suggestion.

Whatever, your just sounding a bit freaky and weird, mabye its time to lighten up. Anway this Generation acts, responds, talks, does things differently to the older gens. I hate going to forums when there all so serious and boring,no humour blah blah blah, well anyway, THIS current generation is different (as in 20 year olds vs 60 year olds) (no offence if your 60, soz,lol), well its just all get along, no matter who views are cough, and who has got no idea what they are talking about, OK, cool

 

[Dave Noble]

A few guys here have contacted family and friends etc... One of those friends is a criminal lawyer and is saying that it is identity fraud..


But.... they are a lawyer..... ;o)

I couldn't see how it is any more fraud than for someone to use someone elses (named) ticket at wimbledon as long as the ticket was gievn to the passenger not stolen (of course) . I can see that it would be a contract breach but not how there could be a fraudulent action if not asked for id and no fake id prpovided

Dave

 

[milocole]

I couldn't see how it is any more fraud than for someone to use someone elses (named) ticket at wimbledon as long as the ticket was gievn to the passenger not stolen (of course) . I can see that it would be a contract breach but not how there could be a fraudulent action if not asked for id and no fake id prpovided

Dave

Fake id might be a good idea, lol. It was funny checking in yesterday, the JQ staff goes "name" hand over baggage and im out of there, i was watching here eyes and she was watching the new JQ staff being trained,no id even asked, so she was distracted!, anyway i could have been any Fred, Easter Bunny or even santa , soz

 

[simongr]

I couldn't see how it is any more fraud than for someone to use someone elses (named) ticket at wimbledon as long as the ticket was gievn to the passenger not stolen (of course) . I can see that it would be a contract breach but not how there could be a fraudulent action if not asked for id and no fake id prpovided

Dave

I am not sure it is identity theft (I amnot sure what Identiy fraud is - not a phrase I have heard before).

The reason I would flag this as fraud is that there is deception for the purposes obtaining oir not expending funds. The traveller would be purporting to be someone that they are not to gain a financial benefit.

 

[Dave Noble]

The reason I would flag this as fraud is that there is deception for the purposes obtaining oir not expending funds. The traveller would be purporting to be someone that they are not to gain a financial benefit.

Except that the airline has already been provided consideration for the the transportation of a person so there is no loss to the airline any more than my buying a theatre ticket and giving it to someone else

Dave

 

[Keith009]

Don't think you can reasonably establish an obtaining offence - as 'financial benefit' in this case is tenuous at best. JMO.

 

[Tith-Onaka]

If no loss to airline, why won't they allow change of name?

 

[simongr]

Except that the airline has already been provided consideration for the the transportation of a person so there is no loss to the airline any more than my buying a theatre ticket and giving it to someone else

Dave

Except that the earlier ticket may have been bought at a discount that may not now be available. As a fee may be due for any change of name the benefit that you have obtained is the saving of that fee.

Theatre tickets are not sold to inviduals as such in the same way that an airline ticket is sold.

 

[Dave Noble]

Theatre tickets are not sold to inviduals as such in the same way that an airline ticket is sold.

Some event tickets are; Wimbledon for example

Dave

 

[pshepvic]

The reason they don't like to do name changes...here's an example: Say I buy a ticket today on a red-edeal for $120. In 3 months time when it comes time to fly, i can't go but I can sell that ticket to a friend for $120, I lose nothing. But by that time I do that, the price for the flight is $200+ - the airline is effectively losing $80. So they would rather i to cancel my seat, they can resell it for $200 or more, plus they also keep my original $120 (and let me use that towards another flight in the future, which they hope will be more expensive, and then I have to pay more again). It's all about more money in the airlines bank account.

Interestingly, Qantas DO allow name changes on tickets booked on points - they are not getting $ for the flight anyway, plus they get to charge you 2500 points which you then can't use towards another flight!

IN regards to travelling under someone elses name - I've been flying on average every 9 days for the last 4 years, and in that time I have been asked for photo ID ONCE! And that was the day that they guy went crazy on a flight from launceston (I think?) to Melbourne. THey had the feds at the airport, and were checking ID's at the plane.

Otherwise, even when I've checked in at a counter (let alone online/quick check) they have never asked for a photo ID in those 4 years (once I've even travelled under someone elses ticket - I just showed their FF card and no questions asked! ... I'll expressly state that I am not suggesting this or encouraging it though!)

 

[thadocta]

I just feel your colleagues will get caught at the security checkpoints when the BP and pax's Id may not match......

You don't fly very often on Australian domestic flights, do you......

Dave