Travel outside business hours

[Febs]

Typically with my international travel, I'm allocated a set amount of hours/days which I can use for travel. E.g. for North America, it's 3 days (I'm salaried).

I can either travel on weekdays, or (as I usually prefer to) travel on weekends, then use those 3 days for leisure time.

For example on this trip I started work on Wednesday. Got to the US on Sunday, counted Mon/Tues as travel days (while visiting Napa Valley ), and will leave on a Friday (returning to Sydney on Sunday). I'll then use the third travel day to take the following Monday off.

Works out well for me.

We can also earn time off in lieu, which usually means I end up with 7 weeks' leave each year.

 

[Groundfeeder]

With my Govt travel, time off in lieu is the standard, although I believe travel time was paid @ 150% years ago.
As with many other travellers, the early departures/late arrival scenario tends to build TOIL rapidly and one cannot always redeem it due to ongoing work requirements. At one stage I was told use it or lose it, so worked a 2 day week for 3 weeks - something that somehow annoyed my employer.
These days wherever possible I'll depart the nite before field requirements to allow a whole day to commence, rather than an interrupted day with lugging baggage around till you drop.

 

[dot]

For me in Y (and all International flights to Asia mostly), I try to only travel during the day (I hate overnight flights in Y) and where possible, that will be a work day. To give you an example, there is a possibility that I will need to be in MNL next week (still up in the air), I plan to travel Monday on QF19 and come back via HKG on Friday on CX during the day - that means I will effectively only have three days of work in MNL and two days of travel.

Formerly, when we had a policy business for flights over eight hours, I would think nothing of taking an overnight flight Sunday night - arrive in HKG/SHZ early am and go straight to work, then depart Friday afternoon for an overnight flight home arriving early Saturday morning. Effectively getting almost 5 full days of work out of me - with the possiblity of even doing some work on the flights if I needed to.

I am on a salary, but get per diems when I travel. I can claim per diems for overnight flights, but not for day flights. If I need to travel overnight or on the weekend, I do not get TOIL or anything else for it orther than the per diem for the arrival night at my destination.

 

[Hvr]

TOIL, and an understanding that I refuse to do overnight domestic unless absolutely essential. It has never been necessary. :!:

 

[misstam]

My travel is mostly domestic, where I'm on a salary per project basis with pre-paid weekly per diems.(I'm away from home typically for 4-8 weeks per project, although some have been 6-12 months).

All travel days, regardless of length/time of travel, are considered paid work days. Some overtime is built-in to my wage. A lot of my work is conducted outside business hours, so traveling outside these hours isn't really an issue for me - unless I need to organise an early/late motel check in.
The main criteria is that there is a minimum of 10 hrs break between work days - this is sometimes unavoidable but incurs penalties for 2+ days running.

International travel for other jobs has been along similar lines. One job paid daily per diems with hourly rate for flying time, plus an hour either side of flight departure/arrival time for travel days.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Well at my previous emloyment back when I was a true frequent flyer much of my flying was done, and was expected to be down in my time...with no extra recompense (except that one got to keep the FF points eared!!!).

I did this for years..often flying weeklu. Mainly Mel/Syd flights...but also many to Perth and Adelaide..with regulat rips to many other Auastrlian destinations.

Then there was one moment, one point in time....where I had an epiphany. this led me to changing comapnies and careers...and now I also only fly workwise say halfa dozen lights a year.

The moment for me was arriving at a mangement meeting in Brisbane.
I was 5 minutes late for a 10am start after having flown from Mel that morning. In addition the only reason I was the 5 minutes late that I had bumped into at the aiport a contact who was hugely important to our company and so I stopped and talked for 10 minutes.

On arriving at the meeting the CEO chastised me and said that I should make an effort to be therr on time.


Now this REALLY REALLy annoyed me. Why?

Context.

For about a dozen years I had flown to Sydney for Management Meetings...in the main monthly. At all of these prior, and I mean ALL..I had always been early. And I mean every single time.

For most of these meetings some of the Syd managers were late. Including the CEO.
Rare was a meeting that started on time.


So at that moment..I just thought...why am I bothering.

So that set the wheels in motion..and have led a much improved lifestyle.

Oh and yes when I fly for work now..it is mainly in company time.

 

[Hawkeye]

My work-related travel time is incorporated into professional development leave, of which I receive ~ 3 weeks per year.

As a medico, this travel is largely for international conferences & investigator meetings (for trials into new therapies).

 

[medhead]

I basically travel on "company" time. Many domestic flights and sometimes involves 8 hours of driving mostly on dirt tracks. We get flexi-time, as distinct from TOIL. When I did a Maralinga trip, two weeks working everyday plus decent drive, it all when into flexi.

I only mention this because there are some subtle differences between flexi and TOIL. TOIL is only available when my employer demands me to work overtime, I can't lose it, I can take it as cash. Flexi is when I choose to work extra, I can lose this at the end of the year, if I have to much built up. Flexi can only be taken as hours.