Travel in US, Codeshare QF or AA flight number

[gpr49697]

Hi guys,
have trip to US in march with QF11/12 over and back and 2 internal AA sectors. For the internal US flights I currently have one flight booked as AA and another as a QF flight number. Is there any advantage one way or the other in terms of having it marketing and sold as a QF or AA flight?

 

[MelUser]

In economy better as QF flight number.

In premium better as AA flight number (but tell the TA to put flights into pure "Y", not "B" or anything else)

In business better as AA flight number (tell TA to use "A" booking code) [except transcons]

In first no difference.

 

[flychrisfly]

In economy better as QF flight number.

In premium better as AA flight number (but tell the TA to put flights into pure "Y", not "B" or anything else)

In business better as AA flight number (tell TA to use "A" booking code) [except transcons]

In first no difference.

Hi MelUser, can you explain why one is better than the other please? I didn't think it would make any difference so I'm curious to find out what the differences are. Thanks

 

[drewbles]

In economy better as QF flight number.

In premium better as AA flight number (but tell the TA to put flights into pure "Y", not "B" or anything else)

In business better as AA flight number (tell TA to use "A" booking code) [except transcons]

In first no difference.

Hi MelUser, can you explain why one is better than the other please? I didn't think it would make any difference so I'm curious to find out what the differences are. Thanks

Not all Economy fares on AA codes earn QF points. Many only earn Discount Economy SC's and points at 0.5 per mile (for fares booked into G/L/M/N/S or V buckets).

Full Fare points and SC's are earned on B/H/K and Y buckets.

Fares in A will credit as First Class for Points and SC's.

If you book on a QF code for discount economy, you'll receive normal 1 point per mile and normal discount economy SC's.

Of course this is on the basis you're crediting your flights to QF (Which I'll assume you are).

 

[plspoon]

Hi guys,
have trip to US in march with QF11/12 over and back and 2 internal AA sectors. For the internal US flights I currently have one flight booked as AA and another as a QF flight number. Is there any advantage one way or the other in terms of having it marketing and sold as a QF or AA flight?

I'd say it depends on whether you want the status credits for your QFF or not. If it's an AA flight number you won't receive QF status credits. If it's a QF flight number, you will. From the point of view of how many points you will receive, others are probably better placed to answer that. For service, I'd say it makes no difference, if the flight is operated by AA and they are going to cancel the flight it will make no difference whether you have a QF or AA flight number, they will stuff you around anyway!! I speak from experience...

 

[drewbles]

I'd say it depends on whether you want the status credits for your QFF or not. If it's an AA flight number you won't receive QF status credits. If it's a QF flight number, you will. From the point of view of how many points you will receive, others are probably better placed to answer that. For service, I'd say it makes no difference, if the flight is operated by AA and they are going to cancel the flight it will make no difference whether you have a QF or AA flight number, they will stuff you around anyway!! I speak from experience...

Welcome to AFF plspoon

Not quite right on the AA not earning SC's on QF. It all depends on which fare bucket you book into.

If anyone is interested, the airline earning table on QF's site details what earns what on AA codes:

Frequent Flyer - About the Program - Terms & Conditions

It's a shame they stuffed you around. I've not had anything but excellent stories to tell about AA staff (especially the lounge AAngels).

I've always found them to be amazing when irrops happen and they have to re-accommodate a plane load of people, something QF could learn from that's for sure!

 

[serfty]

AA 2 class domestic flight services have First and Economy class cabins.

Qantas sell codes share seats with QF flights on many of these services, but with business and economy fare codes.

Both First (AA) and Business (QF) have you seated in the front "First Class" cabin.

On a QF flight number you would earn Business class SC's, on the AA flight number for the same service you receive First Class SC (some 50% more).

 

[flychrisfly]

Not all Economy fares on AA codes earn QF points. Many only earn Discount Economy SC's and points at 0.5 per mile (for fares booked into G/L/M/N/S or V buckets).

Full Fare points and SC's are earned on B/H/K and Y buckets.

Fares in A will credit as First Class for Points and SC's.

If you book on a QF code for discount economy, you'll receive normal 1 point per mile and normal discount economy SC's.

Of course this is on the basis you're crediting your flights to QF (Which I'll assume you are).

Kewl - thanks!

 

[gpr49697]

thanks much to all.

Not all Economy fares on AA codes earn QF points. Many only earn Discount Economy SC's and points at 0.5 per mile (for fares booked into G/L/M/N/S or V buckets).

Full Fare points and SC's are earned on B/H/K and Y buckets.

Fares in A will credit as First Class for Points and SC's.

If you book on a QF code for discount economy, you'll receive normal 1 point per mile and normal discount economy SC's.

Of course this is on the basis you're crediting your flights to QF (Which I'll assume you are).

 

[yo yo ma]

Hi MelUser, can you explain why one is better than the other please?

In addition to the info provided, I think you get the QF baggage allowance as stated below?

USA Domestic Baggage Allowance

When the USA domestic flights are issued on the same ticket as the international sectors, American Airlines domestic baggage allowance is 2 x 23kgs bags per person. If the domestic ticket is issued separately to the international ticket and travel on the domestic flight is outside of 24 hours from the international sectors the first and second checked baggage fee will apply. The checked baggage fees are:

• 1st check baggage fee USD25.00
• 2nd check baggage fee USD35.00

Exceptions to the fee are:

• Customers who have a domestic flight within 24 hours of the international sector (regardless of how the ticket is issued, cross-referenced or not)
• Customers who purchase Business or First Class tickets
• Customers who purchase Around The World or oneworld explorer fares
• Customers flying on AA codeshare flights not operated by American Airlines, American Eagle or AmericanConnection® (operating carrier baggage allowance and charges will apply)

American Airlines | Baggage Allowance | AA.com Australia


.

 

[gpr49697]

In addition to the info provided, I think you get the QF baggage allowance as stated below?

USA Domestic Baggage Allowance




When the USA domestic flights are issued on the same ticket as the international sectors, American Airlines domestic baggage allowance is 2 x 23kgs bags per person. If the domestic ticket is issued separately to the international ticket and travel on the domestic flight is outside of 24 hours from the international sectors the first and second checked baggage fee will apply. The checked baggage fees are:

• 1st check baggage fee USD25.00
• 2nd check baggage fee USD35.00

Exceptions to the fee are:

• Customers who have a domestic flight within 24 hours of the international sector (regardless of how the ticket is issued, cross-referenced or not)
• Customers who purchase Business or First Class tickets
• Customers who purchase Around The World or oneworld explorer fares
• Customers flying on AA codeshare flights not operated by American Airlines, American Eagle or AmericanConnection® (operating carrier baggage allowance and charges will apply)

.

FYI Oneworld Ruby, Saphire and Emerald are exempt from the mandatory domestic checked bag fee.

 

[uncreative_mastermind]

AA has just announced a new fee for all those that book their flights with a GDS system. In future an AA flight bought as a QF codeshare will actually work out cheaper as you will not have to pay the new 'premium booking fee'

 

[drewbles]

AA has just announced a new fee for all those that book their flights with a GDS system. In future an AA flight bought as a QF codeshare will actually work out cheaper as you will not have to pay the new 'premium booking fee'

Not quite. Sabre has announced that they will impose significant fee hikes for people booking AA fares using Sabre.

Sabre are the ones at fault here not AA. Still, I usually book via my travel agent who uses a consolidator who charges a not insignificant fee. When booking complex Y/KUP fares, it still works out better using my agent than doing it direct via AA (and is a bucket load easier).