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Interesting to see the SQ231 prang involving No 2 engine. Looks like the cowling needs replacing.

I cant imagine its the pilots fault - would the fault lie with the ground crew who direct the aircraft/

Also only 285 pax half full
 

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Imagine if that was QF.... Would have been quite a different reaction.
 

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Imagine if that was QF.... Would have been quite a different reaction.


Something Something offshore maintenaince, something something cost cutting something something qantas putting lives in danger.
 
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Something Something offshore maintenaince, something something cost cutting something something qantas putting lives in danger.
Xenophon would have been first off the mark quicker than you can drop a hot potato
 

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I cant imagine its the pilots fault - would the fault lie with the ground crew who direct the aircraft

Of course not! He was only in control of the aircraft... Perhaps the ground crew wasn't in attendance and he decided to park it without the benefit of the guidance system :shock:
 

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Not a flash start to the day !!

Tell me about it, I was on this flight today.

We had a sudden stop, but the crew hopelessly made no announcements, we were just told to wait in our seats - with no more communication for over an hour. Even the crew remained seated for most of the time.

I was in Suites (luckily), and the crew told me that we were waiting for quarantine officers to attend to a sick passenger in economy...

I only found out about the incident from news.com.au. Thanks SQ!
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Of course not! He was only in control of the aircraft... Perhaps the ground crew wasn't in attendance and he decided to park it without the benefit of the guidance system :shock:

I don't think you quite understand how parking an enormous airliner works.

Sounds like it was poorly handled by the crew post incident.
 

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I don't think you quite understand how parking an enormous airliner works.

Sounds like it was poorly handled by the crew post incident.

To be quite blunt, you have no idea what I do or don't know. Do you know how a nose in guidance system works? I do.
 

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Certainly do... Use them on a daily basis.

It's inappropriate to make a sarcastic comment blaming the flight crew when no information has been forthcoming.
 

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The OP said that they couldn't imagine that the pilot would be at fault. I didn't attribute fault. I stated a fact - that the pilot was in control of the aircraft. At least I hope he was - because as you'd know from all your experience these enormous aircraft don't park themselves. Then I made a suggestion as to a possible cause. But yes, let's wait a few months until the official investigation is complete before reconvening to discuss the findings, it'll be so much fun. Good night!
 

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Tell me about it, I was on this flight today.

We had a sudden stop, but the crew hopelessly made no announcements, we were just told to wait in our seats - with no more communication for over an hour. Even the crew remained seated for most of the time.

I was in Suites (luckily), and the crew told me that we were waiting for quarantine officers to attend to a sick passenger in economy...

I only found out about the incident from news.com.au. Thanks SQ!
#neardeathexperience

Ahhh. Singapore. Problem? What problem?
 

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Of course not! He was only in control of the aircraft... Perhaps the ground crew wasn't in attendance and he decided to park it without the benefit of the guidance system :shock:

I always ask the 'guidance system' to get out and help me park... ;) She has n't failed me yet!
 

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If the NIGS was u/s the a/c would've been marshalled in. Wonder besides the engineer how many other staff there were to keep an eye on goings on further back?

I flew recently on NH & it seems that their sops are a wing walker both sides on the a/c plus one behind not to mention the one doing the pushback.
 

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The OP said that they couldn't imagine that the pilot would be at fault. I didn't attribute fault. I stated a fact - that the pilot was in control of the aircraft. At least I hope he was - because as you'd know from all your experience these enormous aircraft don't park themselves. Then I made a suggestion as to a possible cause. But yes, let's wait a few months until the official investigation is complete before reconvening to discuss the findings, it'll be so much fun. Good night!

Anythings possible. I suspect the likely cause is ground crew moving the aerobridge before the aircraft had come to a stop. It would be unlikely for a pilot to attempt to park an aircraft if he can see an obstruction in the clearance area, and if NIGs was U/S the marshal would have noticed the aerobridge in the clearance area one would have thought. Regardless, someone had a bad day.
 

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Interesting to see the SQ231 prang involving No 2 engine. Looks like the cowling needs replacing.

I cant imagine its the pilots fault - would the fault lie with the ground crew who direct the aircraft/

Also only 285 pax half full

How do you come to that conclusion? If you hit anything whilst under power it's the captain's fault in 99% of cases.

You're supposed to ensure that the bridges are parked before trying to park your aircraft. There are clearly marked areas that they have to be in before the bay can be considered clear.
 
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