Special Members Area with designated access qualifications?

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Re: Avianca "Life Miles" - New FF program in *A

The risk I run with supporting a sealed forum section is that I wouldn't be invited to join it! Probably because I don't know enough :(

But I have appreciated all the support other members have offered me, and if I could contribute anything useful, I would!
 
Re: Avianca "Life Miles" - New FF program in *A

What are the qualifications to gain access to this special members only forum . I don't see the point if talking in code like that TRick it thread it's just annoying and time wasting . Just between me and you I think all these MR's is a waste of time to achieve status when it's just simply a phone call.
 
Sounds like the pool room on whirlpool. Except more open. I'd think the whirlpool model of is there isn't there, would be better. AFF would have to introduce something similar in concept to an Aura, IMO. That way people who are considered takers and not givers would never attain the required aura to access the secret area.


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Really in 2 minds with this.But basically I only give away things that can be found elsewhere with a little effort.
Now if we were serious then access to this section should be enabled by some one who is discerning.As the only self acknowledged DYKWIA here it would have to be Tony Hancock!;):)
 
I personally don't think this is a good idea. I think people share if they want or can. I don't bother with these sorts of fares though - I try and just work within the rules (mind you knocking on the door of 4K SCs I dont exactly need mileage runs - even if I thought I once did).

One of the challenges is that some people share knowledge about travel and how best to enjoy it but dont have time or skills to find "mistake" fares or similar but they have probably enhanced the travel of many thousands on AFF - probably more than someone who knows where to source the best deal. I see the overall forum as an opportunity for the former to share with the latter - it's a bit like fluid a marketplace where my cow may not directly be exchanged for your beans but my cow being given to someone for no beans who then tells another person about a bean source who then comes to me with free beans...

If it is that top secret then form friendships and alliances and share it via PM, SMS, phone calls rather than creating an admin burden for the forum, another opportunity for bitcaing about people and another opportunity for "what about meeeee???? why wont you let meeee in" and a trade in selling user ids to the secret forum of cheap flight stash.
 
Re: Avianca "Life Miles" - New FF program in *A

Oh c'mon, you don't think airline management might be using other logins other than RED ROO?? Alan Joyce may have an account here, heck, I could be him!

I'm Alan Joyce*

...wouldn't mind seeing AFF IRC. That could be fun.


*Awaits the multitude of AFF members to declare that they are Alan Joyce.
 
The idea sounds fine in theory.
However I see a number of flaws.

1. what will be the governing criteria? Airline status? Paid membership? Frequency and relevance of AFF posting and selection by moderators, or a minimum number of flights PA in say J?

2. Once you have this elite club, what then? Does a Bossreggie lunch say, only get exposure in the sealed forum?
Or at least a first in best dressed option?
Do self funded fliers get priority membership over FIFO persons?

3. does anyone actually understand what an elite members area is actually about, and to what end?


It course to me that there are a lot of potential issues , not unlike (for example) some issues raised in other posts Eg. Hi Viz in the lounge, some are offended by this. Will the dreaded Hi Viz wearer sneak in under the radar and become a problem

Will there be a " Does status make you arrogant" issue ( another thread on this site) arising?

Frankly I think if you are worried about lurkers, then change the system to one where you have a fixed number of free log ins and then to continue, a silver membership as a minimum requirement be implemented.

Additional levels of membership ( and fee for said level) be implemented.

Or something to that effect........

The above comments should not be taken too seriously. There is a mixture of silly and real issues though in what I say






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To be honest I'm a bit like drron :shock:
I'm happy to help out wherever I can but the info I'm giving publicly isn't exactly state secrets.
Any info I have gained via PM or in person will be passed on in the same manner ;)
 
I am, of course, utterly useless in the old information department so couldn't possibly see myself in an exclusive club! (Other than my own exclusive club of course :p)
 
I am, of course, utterly useless in the old information department so couldn't possibly see myself in an exclusive club! (Other than my own exclusive club of course :p)
A club with such elite membership must be really boring.



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A club with such elite membership must be really boring.

It's not that boring if you find you have common interests. :D

To me the idea of the forum is to share information, but like in real life you need to be discrete with who you share this information.

Personally I think a special members area inappropriate. If it's general info, post it in the forum. If it's discrete information, that's what PM's are for...
 
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I am against the idea.

If anyone wants to keep things more private than this forum or wants to discuss them as such, you have PM, email, chat, Facebook, Twitter or even good ol' face-to-face.

At a very long stretch, I'd maybe support a Gold only forum (one already exists but it only does to instruct Gold members what they are entitled to), but I still think this is pointless and just sets the wrong ethos. As well as this, there will always be a risk and concern that info within the "secret" area will be leaked, without being necessarily traceable back to a member (unless a witch hunt is initiated).

I respect that others have gone to lengths to research particular "tricks" or what not; if they share those with me then I do not post them openly here without their permission. That's just a trust matter, which I thought was kind of part and parcel with something else called common sense. If I post something which is not meant to be shared, if someone tells me so then I will remove it.

If it gets out, well then it's out and unless it's forcibly removed, I'll talk a bit more liberally about it. Needless to say, once it is out in the open and not stopped from being talked about, it's not quite right to brand those who newly read this information as "leeches". Of course, if the topic is further discussed and that's significant synthesis on top of the original content, then that might be described as "leeching" and needn't be answered (for example, specific routings, checking rules, etc. - no need to answer these if you don't want to; after all, you did all the routing trial-and-error, you are the one who purchased a subscription to Expert Flyer / KVS, etc. etc.)

There are certainly a couple of things which I know which I have only learned by talking to those people face-to-face. To this day, I still haven't talked about it on AFF. Other things I have discussed off AFF or via PMs. Nothing wrong with that.

In any case, when reposting information - whether it be on another thread, another forum or a blogpost - the principles of proper attribution should be followed. The information where you derive your post from should be clearly referenced, and the proper authors of that acknowledged. (In academia, we do this with referencing; in the more informal sense on forums and blogs, a "hat tip" or standard courtesy should be paid.) Especially in the case where content is lifted without significant synthesis, attribution should be made and a generous thanks given (or even better, permission sought from owner), otherwise there's a risk that an accusation of plagiarism could be made.

I realise that blogs like some on the Boarding Area earn affiliate income based on traffic, as do some other websites, for example Australian Business Traveller, perhaps to a lesser degree. The reposting of information on such blogs I don't think is necessarily wrong, as long as the blogger does not claim ownership of the material, references the source and gives appropriate attribution to the original author.
 
I'm Alan Joyce*

...wouldn't mind seeing AFF IRC. That could be fun.


*Awaits the multitude of AFF members to declare that they are Alan Joyce.

I'm Alan Joyce, and so is my wife...

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Can I humbly suggest that Alan Joyce spend less time posting on AFF and more time in the office - although on the other hand...
 
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