Should I stay or should I go (EuroZone)

[MEL_Traveller]

Bollocks !!

We will have to disagree on that. The sexual abuse of children by Catholic priests is the evidence you need. They don't abuse children because they are Catholic.

 

[JohnK]

I completely agree. There is no "Muslim race". Ignorant superficial prejudiced nonsense, yes. Racist, no.

You've just described the issue perfectly. Except you've directed the comment to the wrong side of the argument.

 

[marki]

I would like to keep religion a distant side issue and concentrate on Eurozone travel and how events within it effects travel.

 

[drron]

We will have to disagree on that. The sexual abuse of children by Catholic priests is the evidence you need. They don't abuse children because they are Catholic.

But two little flaws in that argument-they don't do it in the name of God either.
Secondly there is no problem in criticizing the Catholic church.

 

[JohnK]

I would like to keep religion a distant side issue and concentrate on Eurozone travel and how events within it effects travel.

I agree witth you about not discussing religion but isn't religion and cultural behaviour the whole issue in Europe right now? If not then we must be reading different news stories.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I agree witth you about not discussing religion but isn't religion and cultural behaviour the whole issue in Europe right now? If not then we must be reading different news stories.

The media is feeding you propaganda which you are accepting and believing this is a 'Muslim' problem. In fact, like the Catholic priests, this is not a Muslim issue. The people are just bad people. Period.

 

[drron]

As I have said beware of the right wing backlash if you continue to refuse to discuss peoples concerns.The Norwegian Immigration Minister is now of the Anti-Immigration party and so we see this-
Migrants: Norway 'sending us to death' in Russia - The Local

Alternative for Germany party scores shock results in regional elections

And the problems continue to worsen-
Thirty times more refugees and migrants arrive in Greece

And figures that worry a lot of people in France-
Islamization and Demographic Denialism in France :: Middle East Forum

And why they are moving to the right-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opini...tial_election,_2017#Jupp.C3.A9.E2.80.93Le_Pen

 

[JohnK]

The media is feeding you propaganda which you are accepting and believing this is a 'Muslim' problem. In fact, like the Catholic priests, this is not a Muslim issue. The people are just bad people. Period.

It's not propaganda. It's reality. The placid Swedes don't rebel for no reason.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

It's not propaganda. It's reality. The placid Swedes don't rebel for no reason.

Ummm - the Swedes have one of the highest rates of domestic violence in the world. Hardly 'placid' people

Rosie Batty: Face to face with a domestic violence perpetrator - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

 

[juddles]

Ummm - the Swedes have one of the highest rates of domestic violence in the world. Hardly 'placid' people

Rosie Batty: Face to face with a domestic violence perpetrator - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Ummmm.... no they don't.

They have a high level of REPORTED domestic violence compared to other EUROPEAN countries.

And they are very big on gender equality - hugely so - and women are highly encouraged to report anything. Under their definitions, if a husband raises his voice, he is committing psychological domestic violence.

I support them - don't get me wrong there - but to try to suggest that they are somehow a violent - anti-woman society is absolutely ridiculous.

 

[JohnK]

Ummm - the Swedes have one of the highest rates of domestic violence in the world. Hardly 'placid' people

I guess it depends on which source you choose to use.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_domestic_violence

 

[Abdul_A350]

I guess it depends on which source you choose to use.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_domestic_violence

In the European Union, DV is a serious problem in the Baltic States.

Ah yes. So many Muslims in the Baltic states.

 

[clazman]

A recent quote I heard, if so many idiots didn't believe in a fictional book, would we have so many problems...

 

[JohnK]

In the European Union, DV is a serious problem in the Baltic States.

Ah yes. So many muslins in the Balkan states.

Baltic or Balkan?

Just out of interest how many times in our history have you heard of large groups of men congregating in a public place harrassing, stealing and raping women ignoring any police presence? I have never come across anything like it in my short life.

So who is a model refugee in your eyes? Every time one of them commits a crime "we" denounce them and say all refugees are good.

How many refugees storm down border fences with local police on the other side?

We can keep discarding all these true stories and everything and everyone will be ok.

 

[Abdul_A350]

Every time one of them commits a crime you denounce them and say all refugees are good.

It appears you have me confused with someone else. Either that, or you have chosen to deliberately misrepresent my position.

Attitudes such as yours will do nothing more than inflame an already difficult situation.

 

[amaroo]

Ummm - the Swedes have one of the highest rates of domestic violence in the world. Hardly 'placid' people

Rosie Batty: Face to face with a domestic violence perpetrator - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Wasn't this issue discussed in detail up thread?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

This report says no increase in crime rates in Germany due to refugee influx: Report: refugees have not increased crime rate in Germany | News | DW.COM | 13.11.2015

 

[JohnK]

It appears you have me confused with someone else. Either that, or you have chosen to deliberately misrepresent my position.

Attitudes such as yours will do nothing more than inflame an already difficult situation.

Nothing wrong with my attitude.

Can you answer my 2 questions?

And it wasn't aimed at "you" but "us" or society in general. Updated my post.

 

[marki]

But two little flaws in that argument-they don't do it in the name of God either.
Secondly there is no problem in criticizing the Catholic church.

Yes ... Makes sense

 

[marki]

I agree witth you about not discussing religion but isn't religion and cultural behaviour the whole issue in Europe right now? If not then we must be reading different news stories.

I totally agree, just don't want it to be only religion or religious issues