Russian passenger jet crash – 71 feared dead

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  1. boomy

    boomy Senior Member

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    As reported on BBC:

    The An-148 aircraft operated by Saratov Airlines went missing from radar shortly after take-off from the Moscow airport, according to the source.

    The plane is understood to have been carrying 65 passengers and six crew.
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    A source told Russia’s Interfax news agency: "The airplane reportedly crashed outside Argunovo village in the Moscow region.

    “The crew and passengers had no chance.”

    The aircraft was heading for Orsk, a city close to the Russia-Kazakhstan border.

    The Russian Emergencies Ministry said it is verifying reports that the An-148 has crashed outside Moscow.
     
  2. Jenya

    Jenya Junior Member

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    :(:(:( RIP
    news.com.au already spit out article with cleaver statement "Plane crashes are common in Russia, where airlines often operate ageing aircraft in testing flying conditions."
    - Qantas average age of its fleet to 7.7 years (121 aircrafts).
    - Aeroflot average age 4.1 years. (228 aircrafts) - youngest fleet in Europe.
     
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  4. Jenya

    Jenya Junior Member

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    which is still young...
    This particular plane 7yo. Its small regional airline with just 10 aircrafts.
    Here is video of the crash :(
    Mash
     
  5. Berlin

    Berlin Established Member

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    That's awful. Whenever I land at this airport, especially in snow, I am thinking to myself, wow, that looks like really far out. After reading about this accident and what a barren area it went down in, this impression seems to be quite correct!
    To early really to speculate but the age of the airplane in question doesn't exactly seem out of the ordinary (though of course this says nothing about maintenance). And there's snow in the area more often than not- does anyone know whether it was a particularly bad day, weather wise? Like a snowstorm maybe?
     
  6. BAM1748

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    While fleet age can most definitely be a factor, competency of employees can be as well as all the usual suspects around human factors.
     
  7. Berlin

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  9. coriander

    coriander Established Member

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    Quote From CNN
    >The scatter of fragments of the aircraft and bodies of dead passengers occupies a large territory;
    >the radius is not less than 1 kilometer (0.6 miles),

    Suggests it broke up in mid-air.
     
  10. jb747

    jb747 Senior Member

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    The Russians are probably more experienced than anyone at handling snow. Their pilots are generally quite decent. Older, Soviet era aircraft, were dangerous even when new (age really has little to do with it), but this is a modern aircraft. There isn't any real information around. TBA.
     
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  11. amaroo

    amaroo Senior Member

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    Very sad...
     
  12. Berlin

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    That's what I would have thought, if they know one thing for sure, then it will be snow!
     
  13. Mattg

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    Mattg Senior Member

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    Collision with the ground, perhaps?

    I suspect that may have just been a translation error. The original article in German describes it as a "crash".
     
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  16. Berlin

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    Those damn pitots again... But the article also says that the pilot deliberately decided not to de-ice the plane which might have been the root of the issue.
     
  17. jb747

    jb747 Senior Member

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    It safely got to 6,000', so I don't htink that de-icing was an issue. Pitot/static icing possibly, but that's a switch that you turn on. But, an aircraft is quite flyable without valid airspeed data...even though some have proven that it's unflyable to them.
     
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