Rex to fly between Australian capital cities

[jb747]

It refers to aircraft, they are leased per hour in some cases, it became rather important and more popular for both sides last year. Few alternatives.

Oh, I'm sure you can lease aircraft by the hour, but it isn't 'power by the hour', that's for power plants.

 

[AIRwin]

Rex announced today reductions in services to cities and regional communities that are affected by extensive State border closures and/or lockdowns. Domestic and Regional routes on Rex’s network in New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Queensland and Tasmania will be either temporarily suspended or greatly reduced until the end of the State Government imposed border closures and/or lockdowns.

https://www.rex.com.au/BlobViewer/BlobViewer.aspx?attachtype=MR&filename=50593932727673305064754152727A625A79777244377A426C4A5032493951613845354F4E6E4C3341787A2B4972767A573275554770594973446F6F6E615A447738397039394F524E504A7157734D4536556F6E4A3062487A465831335A5675

 

[henrus]

Rex announced today

Clicking on that link I was expecting a detailed breakdown of changes or something a little more informative.

Instead, it was one paragraph about reductions just listing whole states (rather than flights/cities). Then about 1/3rd was talking about how great they are with a "automated refund portal" and finally the remaining third complaining about Qantas. I'm not sure why I expected something better but I truly thought they were done complaining about Qantas.

 

[jb747]

Well, if they want no competition, then a nice 737 service between Wagga and Albury would be a winner.

 

[wandering_fred]

Well, if they want no competition, then a nice 737 service between Wagga and Albury would be a winner.

I;m still waiting for Busselton - Albany and Albany - Kalgoorlie (TURBO PROPS acceptable)

It would allow me to be wandering
Fred

 

[dajop]

I;m still waiting for Busselton - Albany and Albany - Kalgoorlie (TURBO PROPS acceptable)

It would allow me to be wandering
Fred

Probably have more potential traffic at the moment than SYD-MEL or MEL-ADL. Or even SYD-MEL and MEL-ADL combined.

 

[eastwest101]

Rex announced today reductions in services to cities and regional communities that are affected by extensive State border closures and/or lockdowns. Domestic and Regional routes on Rex’s network in New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Queensland and Tasmania will be either temporarily suspended or greatly reduced until the end of the State Government imposed border closures and/or lockdowns.

https://www.rex.com.au/BlobViewer/BlobViewer.aspx?attachtype=MR&filename=50593932727673305064754152727A625A79777244377A426C4A5032493951613845354F4E6E4C3341787A2B4972767A573275554770594973446F6F6E615A447738397039394F524E504A7157734D4536556F6E4A3062487A465831335A5675

Rex probably do have a point about QF making deliberate decisions to increase wait times for refunds and removal of online options for refunds/fligh credit redemptions, but I think that Qantas and VA are the least of their problems now, all airlines are losing money and the real issue is the interstate border closures, and for QF the international borders.

Maybe a Rex pivot to all intrastate flying with Saab 340s and doing some intrastate WA and QLD with the B738s and abandon interstate routes completely might be a Covid survival plan? After all they are smaller than QF and VA and only have 6 jets so might be able to find some profitable intrastate and resource charter flying compared to QF and VA who have bigger overheads and aircraft that are larger and more suited to interstate routes.

It's either that, or a united front with all other airlines to get some sort of finance package to park planes and crew until Phase 2 was it. What phase was it that the interstate borders stay open?

 

[Must...Fly!]

I doubt it would be worth the costs of relocating crew, engineering and aircraft to BNE or PER. They are only ever one case away from a lockdown as well. The majors would (and know) to do better than pick commercial fights with each other when cash preservation and survival is the game.

 

[travelislife]

Oh, I'm sure you can lease aircraft by the hour, but it isn't 'power by the hour', that's for power plants.

Except in this scenario they are one and the same for the aircraft and the power plant. So even though you have full time possession of the aircraft, you only pay the lessor for every hour you can use it. Wouldn’t have even been offered by a lessor 18 months ago as an option I wouldn’t have thought.

 

[jakeseven7]

" and finally the remaining third complaining about Qantas. I'm not sure why I expected something better but I truly thought they were done complaining about Qantas.

Didn’t you know it was Qantas that spread this last wave around Australia Oh wait - it was actually Virgin

 

[MooTime]

Didn’t you know it was Qantas that spread this last wave around Australia Oh wait - it was actually Virgin

And today's news was qantas spreading the covid on toast.
Bne to Longreach. 2 trips.

 

[jakeseven7]

And today's news was qantas spreading the covid on toast.
Bne to Longreach. 2 trips.

Love covid on toast yum!

 

[HS-TQE]

Rex probably do have a point about QF making deliberate decisions to increase wait times for refunds and removal of online options for refunds/fligh credit redemptions, but I think that Qantas and VA are the least of their problems now, all airlines are losing money and the real issue is the interstate border closures, and for QF the international borders.

Maybe a Rex pivot to all intrastate flying with Saab 340s and doing some intrastate WA and QLD with the B738s and abandon interstate routes completely might be a Covid survival plan? After all they are smaller than QF and VA and only have 6 jets so might be able to find some profitable intrastate and resource charter flying compared to QF and VA who have bigger overheads and aircraft that are larger and more suited to interstate routes.

It's either that, or a united front with all other airlines to get some sort of finance package to park planes and crew until Phase 2 was it. What phase was it that the interstate borders stay open?

Suspect ZL exiting Domestic Jet flying may probably depend on their Singaporean Private Equity part-owners (PAG - the mob co-funding the jet operation along fellow Singaporean businessmen).

 

[eastwest101]

Suspect ZL exiting Domestic Jet flying may probably depend on their Singaporean Private Equity part-owners (PAG - the mob co-funding the jet operation along fellow Singaporean businessmen).

Yes I would imagine its ultimately up to them as to what they want to do but surely some of the decision-making or inputs into decisions would occur in Australia, given Rex is ASX listed and managed in Australia? May not be such a silly idea to park up the B738 fleet until some state borders re-open, or they can find some charter work for them.

Anyway - as others in the aviation sector have found out - saving your job is only important if you work for an Australian owned company, if you have the misfortune to work for an overseas-owned company then your job does not matter at all, even if the job is located in Australia...

 

[henrus]

Suspect ZL exiting Domestic Jet flying may probably depend on their Singaporean Private Equity part-owners

What happened to the many millions they raised to launch the jet services. It's not over yet!

 

[eastwest101]

Who would like to book the second option presented here? And yes - these are one-way fares.....


A few points to note on this screenshot. Firstly note the Covid-tax price gouging on the first option, the direct SYD-DBO-BHQ flight, secondly, if you took the second option of flying Rex on SYD-MEL-ADL-(x)MQL-BHQ (x= not leaving the aircraft at MQL) what are the chances that all of these flights would even operate? And if one leg is cancelled would they rebook a pax on the direct flight? And for bonus points, how many cross-border declarations would you need to do to complete that sequence of flights? What was that about bait and switch and selling products that are impossible to obtain?

 

[Mattg]

Who would like to book the second option presented here? And yes - these are one-way fares.....

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A few points to note on this screenshot. Firstly note the Covid-tax price gouging on the first option, the direct SYD-DBO-BHQ flight, secondly, if you took the second option of flying Rex on SYD-MEL-ADL-BHQ what are the chances that all of these flights would even operate? And if one leg is cancelled would they rebook a pax on the direct flight? And for bonus points, how many cross-border declarations would you need to do to complete that sequence of flights? What was that about bait and switch and selling products that are impossible to obtain?

Isn't that ADL-BHQ flight via MQL as well? So yet another border crossing...

 

[eastwest101]

Isn't that ADL-BHQ flight via MQL as well? So yet another border crossing...

On another day there was actually a SYD-OOL-MEL-MQL-BHQ option possible for around $400 but that's still only 3 borders by my calculation, that's amateur stuff.

I couldn't find a same day SYD-OOL-MEL-ADL-MQL-BHQ to screenshot but that would be the holy grail of Covid-19 state border paperwork with 5 different state border crossing events (if MQL is considered as being in VIC) so you would start and end the day in NSW but would get to do the permits for one entry to QLD, two separate entries to VIC, one entry to SA and another to enter NSW from VIC?

Imagine if Rex had a loyalty scheme! Oh wait - they did actually have a loyalty scheme but scrapped it years ago.....

 

[Mattg]

All Rex 737 flights have been withdrawn from sale for several more weeks.

 

[AIRwin]

All Rex 737 flights have been withdrawn from sale.

Bookings for flights between MEL and ADL/CBR have reopened?