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REX Financially Secure?

p--and--t

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Under current economic conditions there is no rush to scale up
VA original (VB) was able to get flying within months not years
Worse for creditors? - Bidders have no concern for the interest of creditors.

While everyone is doing a distracted sticky beak at the VA crash and burn, no one is looking at who is coming in out of left field (I have no intel) .

AirNZ- what are they doing? Whats to stop AirNZ setting up an AirNZ Aus subsidiary?
...and a profitable established REX in the wings allegedly sucessfully raising finance to fund expansion
 

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...and a profitable established REX in the wings allegedly sucessfully raising finance to fund expansion
The only reason Rex didn't go under is because the government gave them millions of dollars two months ago. They were in a worse position than VA, and if there's any truth to them raising the $200m of finance, that doesn't mean they'll be successful with the jets.
 

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The only reason Rex didn't go under is because the government gave them millions of dollars two months ago. They were in a worse position than VA, and if there's any truth to them raising the $200m of finance, that doesn't mean they'll be successful with the jets.
That’s right!
And REX didn’t raise anything. The ASX suspended REX shares while the chairman clarified his lies.
 

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They were in a worse position than VA.
I don't really think so. Rex wouldn't have been in administration yet with some government funding. They just wouldn't be flying at all.

So a company that claims it had enough cash to survive the next six months, and has never made a loss in its 17 year history, with owned fleet and no substantial debt was in a worse position than a company that hadn't made a profit for >10 years and had not only huge debts, but massive lease obligations?

Rex only got government money to keep some services going, and destinations served - they were basically threatening to stop all services, because it would cost money to operate any service than they could ever hope to receive in revenue from such a service.

Don't forget that VA and QF are also getting money to keep a certain interstate network going and QF Link and VARA getting money for some regional services.
 
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I don't really think so. Rex wouldn't have been in administration yet with some government funding. They just wouldn't be flying at all.

So a company that claims it had enough cash to survive the next six months, and has never made a loss in its 17 year history, with owned fleet and no substantial debt was in a worse position than a company that hadn't made a profit for >10 years and had not only huge debts, but massive lease obligations?

Rex only got government money to keep some services going, and destinations served - they were basically threatening to stop all services, because it would cost money to operate any service than they could ever hope to receive in revenue from such a service.

Don't forget that VA and QF are also getting money to keep a certain interstate network going and QF Link and VARA getting money for some regional services.
Rex got a bailout and is part of the Fed Govt minimum domestic network with QF and VA, which makes none of them any money.
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Don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant.
 

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Maybe the REX dogfight can move to its own thread ;)

Back on topic, Feds say no thanks again to VA1.

 

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Rex got a bailout and is part of the Fed Govt minimum domestic network with QF and VA, which makes none of them any money.
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Prior to Feb 2020


REX - profit every year for as far back as anyone can remember, own their own fleet, no concerning debt load

VA - unprofitable for 8+ years, insurmountable debts, very few assets, teetering

After Feb 2020

Every airline in the entire world - struggling because of covid and no passenger demand, downsizing staff, fleets and ditching services, many will not survive, a dozen already in receivership
 

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Interesting new thread title created by admin.

I'm no REX "fan boy".

While I don't know the guy, Sharp seems to come out with some brash & misleading statements with regularity. I find some of their fares nothing less than eye-wateringly gouging and the onboard service nothing to write home about.

However, they appear to run a tight ship, service a market in many places no-one else does and make a consistent profit in a cutthroat industry where many fail every year. I've had the choice on a few occasions, pay their fare for a 40 min trip or take a 4.5 hour train ride.

What happens after covid is subject to conjecture but a fairly safe bet they are in as good a position as anyone else to come out of it at the other end.
 
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Interesting announcement by Rex to the ASX after close of trading today, basically pushing back against recent media commentary and setting out the recent distribution of Commonwealth government assistance to the various airlines as they see it. They suggest they’ve received no more or less than their proportional ‘entitlement’.

They also state they have
- paid their fair share of Federal and State taxes over the past two decades (I’ve not trawled their annual reports to ascertain the quantum of this )
- provided secure employment (certainly the positions exist but I’m lead to believe pay and conditions contribute to churn on the flightdeck)
- provided ‘reliable and affordable air services to regional and remote communities which may not otherwise have been serviced’ (generally reliable, yes...but no mention of the subsidies that keep these routes viable/relatively affordable )

 

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