quick review from the Garden lounge, Qsuite MEL-DOH-CDG experience

Jstr

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Typing this at the Al Mourjan Garden lounge to pass the time. Thought someone else might find this useful.

Our travel experience: 6 monthly to yearly travel, to Europe and Asia, in J, usually on Singapore or Cathay, as a couple, for many years
It's our first time flying Qatar, in Qsuite.

Hardware:

The good: the pseudo "double bed" configuration of the middle seats was definitely a winner. The ability to fully drop the divider and bridge the two seats with furnishing made the whole suite look much bigger than it actually is. We both gained extra "visual room" from the essentially same overlapping visual space. This is a very efficient design. The bed and pillows (plural) felt slightly more comfortable than Singapore and Cathay (non-Aria).

The bad: my seat completely lost power towards the end of the 14hr flight. It had to be manually reset to upright position and couldn't be operated at all after that. I was offered a spare seat in J, but I declined as there were only 2hrs remaining on the flight.

Service:
Very attentive and appeared very willing to oblige (I am generally an undemanding person so I always declined when something looked like it was too much trouble but they appeared willing). But I wouldn't say it's leaps and bounds ahead of Singapore. Perhaps 5% better, let's say.

The lounge - we decided on the Garden lounge because it was closer and newer and sounded more interesting.

The good:
1. The attendants are very obliging and aims to provide a personal service like a restaurant, despite being very busy.
2. The open design can be very "anti boredom" if you have a long transit. You don't feel "jailed" in a small space.

The bad - unfortunately many...
1. By design, it's huge. It's essentially a sectioned off part of the airport. So it doesn't give you the "cosy", "exclusive", "VIP" sort of feel. It just felt like you are "in the airport", other than the fact that a non-J class holder can't access this part of the airport. Some might find this to be a positive. We didn't, perhaps because we are used to the (slightly) cosier feel at Changi and dark and moody feel at Hongkong.

2. Because it feels like just "regular airport" space, some lounge goers lied down across 3 seater sofas.... further leading the space to look like a regular airport... They were later told off by the attendants, of course.

3. There was an internal line inside the lounge to get a seat at the food area.... People stood there and waited with their carry on luggage to be let in for lounge food... This.... was poor. This shouldn't be how things are inside a J lounge. But I guess it's unavoidable when there is a rush. We estimate some people waited 20 minutes like that.

4. The showers were makeshift in feel. Doesn't contain a toilet. Subpar compared to HK or Changhi.

5. The male toilet and female toilet are 200m apart. Between them, there were: female prayer area, family room, male prayer area, spa/shower, lounge reception, other rooms..... This was unintuitive and inconvenient design...

6. Some of the signs were wrong. The shower sign pointed at the wrong direction. After asking an attendant, we were redirected in the complete opposite direction, going back past the sign. Upon reaching the correct shower area, it's not called shower. It's called "spa". So we overshot again.... only to realise this after asking a second attendant when we ran out of lounge to walk...

7. We arrived during breakfast time. The food options were very limited. We heard from friends who have come before us about how they could order sashimi and that the staff freshly prepares them for you and bring to your table. Unfortunately this type of service, or anything close to it, was not available during breakfast time. Bad luck for us. Overall, we recall Singapore and HK had much more food options at all hours.

Summary:
Great pseudo double bed in the sky, until mine broke towards the end of the flight.
Good service in the sky and the lounge.
Poor lounge design in many ways - I am sure some people will prefer this "part of the open airport" style. But not us.
Not clearly superior to Cathay/Singapore by much overall.

But any day we get to travel in J class around the world in good spirits and good health is a good day. So we count our good fortunes and continue on.
 
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Broadly agree based on my experience last year. I was lucky to be at the same lounge when people weren't: 06:00-07:30. I was surprised it wasn't very busy. Perhaps people have now cottoned on to the fact that the main lounge is apparently horrendously busy during peak periods and have now moved to the Garden.

I found service in the air less professional than expected -- they served warm champagne, and dine-on-demand was declined because the request was "too close to the next service" (45mins before the scheduled lunch service), and they had also run out of the Arab breakfast on the previous flight.
 
If you time it badly at DOH (which is a fare chunk of the time), the lounges are always heaving - despite all the extensions and extra lounges. Plus, there’s still a good chance you’ll get a bus to or from your inbound/outbound flight….

All pretty ordinary compared to what’s generally top notch on board.
 
DOH airport (airside) at peak times reminds me of leaving a footy game. Just hoards of people and nothing feels relaxing. HKG and SIN are miles ahead in this respect.
 
DOH airport (airside) at peak times reminds me of leaving a footy game. Just hoards of people and nothing feels relaxing. HKG and SIN are miles ahead in this respect.
Yeah, if anyone remember the OLD Doha airport, adding bling, gates, lounges, space seemed to have zero effect, except the toilets are less frightening. Much less frightening. And still bussing for bloody half an hour to your plane.
 
3. There was an internal line inside the lounge to get a seat at the food area.... People stood there and waited with their carry on luggage to be let in for lounge food... This.... was poor. This shouldn't be how things are inside a J lounge. But I guess it's unavoidable when there is a rush. We estimate some people waited 20 minutes like that.

Wow. Never seen anything like that! Always been plenty of tables/bench space available in my many visits. Must have been extraordinarily busy.

By design, it's huge. It's essentially a sectioned off part of the airport. So it doesn't give you the "cosy", "exclusive", "VIP" sort of feel.

I haven't recently visited any lounge, F or J or Emerald that felt 'cosy' or exclusive or VIP feel EXCEPT the SQ The Private Room a few years ago and the QR lounge in SIN before the hoards arrived. They are all overcrowded and usually noisy - I was in the SilverKris at SIN a few weeks ago; it was nice but also crowded with kids running round. I guess its what you experience on the day. In a TR I noted a few months ago how I was in the SK lounge again late at night and it was almost empty, but the wretched carts kept clattering heir way around every few minutes.

Did you go down the other end? That's always been very quiet.

6. Some of the signs were wrong. The shower sign pointed at the wrong direction. After asking an attendant, we were redirected in the complete opposite direction, going back past the sign. Upon reaching the correct shower area, it's not called shower. It's called "spa". So we overshot again.... only to realise this after asking a second attendant when we ran out of lounge to walk...

Aren't there 2 shower areas? Never had a problem finding them myself.

5. The male toilet and female toilet are 200m apart. Between them, there were: female prayer area, family room, male prayer area, spa/shower, lounge reception, other rooms..... This was unintuitive and inconvenient design...

Seriously, why is it inconvenient? No-one will be visiting both. 🤷‍♂️
 
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Wow. Never seen anything like that! Always been plenty of tables/bench space available in my many visits. Must have been extraordinarily busy.



I haven't recently visited any lounge, F or J or Emerald that felt 'cosy' or exclusive or VIP feel EXCEPT the SQ The Private Room a few years ago and the QR lounge in SIN before the hoards arrived. They are all overcrowded and usually noisy - I was in the SilverKris at SIN a few weeks ago; it was nice but also crowded with kids running round. I guess its what you experience on the day. In a TR I noted a few months ago how I was in the SK lounge again late at night and it was almost empty, but the wretched carts kept clattering heir way around every few minutes.
🤷‍♂️

HKG CX F Pier lounge IMHO feels cosy, not too busy.
 

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