QF8 - Bird Strike on Engine 1 on take off

[markis10]

Big call to interrupt two or three other services to assist one. Time taken to offload baggage, sort which ones got the lucky call-up and working within crew (working hours) limitations - I'm not surprised they let the other birds fly.

Good luck with tonight - hope they get her going.

The other birds have issues elsewhere in the system with QF51 operating very late yesterday, taking the QF5 bird back as QF52, that bird is now on its way to LAX, so if your on QF16 on Sunday you will have OJC!

 

[Melburnian1]

The QF website indicates that the delayed flight will leave in 12 hours from now - 1030 Sunday 20 September LAX time (which is 0430 Monday AEDT).

The indicative timetable shows the BNE stop from 1715 to 1840 on Monday afternoon and early evening with the one hour time different meaning an arrival in SYD at 2120 AEDT on Monday evening. While 1030 is a good time (0600 to 0700 breakfast at hotel, travel to airport then checkin by say 0900), it only has to be an hour and a half later to be on the verge of running into the dreaded SYD curfew. That's why it could matter, mannej although hopefully for those travelling it operates more or less to the estimated times.

 

[Colster]

So I am now in SYD after being put on QF12 with other refugees from qf8 (QF8R). I think they spilt QF8 into two groups. 1 being business, prem Econ and Platinum that went to the Newport Beach Marriott. The others went to Anaheim. All group 1 that wanted to travel sans luggage got on either QF12, 108 or 16. Hope the group 2 people got home as well.

Big issues was lack of communication to the QF8R from the agents at the hotel and also flat no responses from plat ff centre.

But the positives with the FAs, Crew and managing to get us hotels were very good.

Full trip report to come.

 

[Simo]

So I am now in SYD after being put on QF12 with other refugees from qf8 (QF8R). I think they spilt QF8 into two groups. 1 being business, prem Econ and Platinum that went to the Newport Beach Marriott. The others went to Anaheim. All group 1 that wanted to travel sans luggage got on either QF12, 108 or 16. Hope the group 2 people got home as well.

Big issues was lack of communication to the QF8R from the agents at the hotel and also flat no responses from plat ff centre.

But the positives with the FAs, Crew and managing to get us hotels were very good.

Full trip report to come.

Glad you made it home safely.

 

[markis10]

Big issues was lack of communication to the QF8R from the agents at the hotel and also flat no responses from plat ff centre.

If the FF centre said yes to a request to move to another flight there may have not been any seats left by the time you called, I think leaving it to the coordination centre to decide the best course of action is the right thing to do, versus everyone making their own moves and creating more mess.

 

[Colster]

I don't disagree but there wa ample room (I checked on flightstats) and since they were telling us nothing about what they were doing, they could have been a little more helpful.

The local agents were doing their best but all in all not letting anyone know anything until about 14 hours after they first knew if the problem was a little disappointing. Am happy to be home all safe and sound though.

 

[markis10]

I don't disagree but there wa ample room (I checked on flightstats) and since they were telling us nothing about what they were doing, they could have been a little more helpful.

The local agents were doing their best but all in all not letting anyone know anything until about 14 hours after they first knew if the problem was a little disappointing. Am happy to be home all safe and sound though.

How can you tell there was an ample room, flight stats shows a maximum of 9 seats available with the same seat showing in multiple fare buckets, the only people who knew exactly were the ops people, the same ones making the eventual decision, there could be 20-30 seats left yet the GDS shows 9s across the board including award seats.

Chances are the best course of action was not yet clear, doing anything in that case would have been far from helpful, in crisis management the best course of action is not always the first one thought of. While its not fun dealing with the uncertainty, its there for a reason, usually resulting in the best ending for all.

 

[nlagalle]

I don't disagree but there wa ample room (I checked on flightstats) and since they were telling us nothing about what they were doing, they could have been a little more helpful.

The local agents were doing their best but all in all not letting anyone know anything until about 14 hours after they first knew if the problem was a little disappointing. Am happy to be home all safe and sound though.

flightstats and EF can be inaccurate when it is near boarding time too.. I've seen the numbers way out before.

 

[Colster]

Fair enough. Points taken. Overall they did a pretty good job. Will fly QF again

 

[jb747]

QF8 landed at 23:10. QF108 was still at gate. Considering they new two hours prior to it and the 380 departure they could have held them back. Apparently 108 was full. Will give a full trip report when I get back to SYD.

Yes, but at what time did the QF108 (or the 380 for that matter) crew report for duty? They would have arrived based upon their planned departure time, and already have duty periods in the order of 16:30. By the time you land, move people about, etc, their margins would have disappeared, and you'd just as likely then have them run out of hours too. It gets very messy, very fast, and is one reason why delays are (as much as possible) contained to one flight.

 

[QPProletarian]

You're luckier than me on an QF codeshare EK LHR flight, where the food truck crashed into the plane. There was also still a QF A380 at the gate at the time, but they kept stalling us. QF were only able to offer a seat in two weeks. Ended up having to fly Thai and Jetstar to get home. EK had appalling service.

 

[Jamesl]

Incident: Qantas B744 at Dallas on Oct 18th 2013, bird strike

 

[Melburnian1]

Is the typical rest period for QF staff (pilots and cabin crew) in LAX around 36 hours - i.e. arrive on a Monday morning at around 0700 local time on some flights, depart at 2330 or similar on a Tuesday night?

 

[Quickstatus]

Apparently qf107 syd-lax arrived on 20th Oct and did a quick turnaround as qf8d and flew lax-bne-syd.
The Lax-jfk, Jfk-lax was cancelled. Not sure what happened to those pax going to jfk.

 

[mannej]

Apparently qf107 syd-lax arrived on 20th Oct and did a quick turnaround as qf8d and flew lax-bne-syd.
The Lax-jfk, Jfk-lax was cancelled. Not sure what happened to those pax going to jfk.

Would have been rebooked onto other services.

 

[madrooster]

The Lax-jfk, Jfk-lax was cancelled.

I wonder why they didn't have QF15's 747 continue to JFK instead of QF107.

 

[Quickstatus]

Dont know-could speculate : crew hours, number of JFK pax, easier to put those pax on AA connections etc etc but we'll never know for sure.

Wonder if any AFF members on the cancelled JFK 107/108 could enlighten this forum...