QF72 Lawsuit

[mannej]

Qantas air-plunge passengers join law suit | Perth Now

 

[samh004]

I see from that article that they’re suing Airbus, not Qantas, as you’d imagine they would. But it’s going to be hard to draw correlation's to AF447 without much of that a/c left.

What is adequate compensation for those injuries?

Do you think this company is also going to be representing the families of those lost on AF447?

 

[oz_mark]

Interesting how the newspaper article states that the claim is agains the airline, but reading the complaint it seems more against airbus or Northrop Grumman/Motorola etc. I guess for it to be done under US law they have to have a US angle in there somewhere

 

[thewinchester]

Personally, I don't see them getting too far with this one - and that was much the same view uttered by Geoffrey Thomas this evening when interviewed by 7 News Perth.

I think this is just a money grab, where a law firm wants in on some action.

 

[samh004]

I think this is just a money grab, where a law firm wants in on some action.

It does seem especially that way as the firm is in Chicago and the accident happened between Singapore and Perth… there should be laws to stop these lawyers doing this (other than if they really were acting on behalf of some clients).

 

[YQY]

It does seem especially that way as the firm is in Chicago and the accident happened between Singapore and Perth… there should be laws to stop these lawyers doing this (other than if they really were acting on behalf of some clients).

The ADIRS on the aircraft was manufactured by Northrup Grumman. The ADIRS is thought to have issued the pitch down commands. The lawsuit is being brought against Qantas and Northrup Grumman - hence the reason for US based lawyers.

 

[NM]

The ADIRS on the aircraft was manufactured by Northrup Grumman. The ADIRS is thought to have issued the pitch down commands. The lawsuit is being brought against Qantas and Northrup Grumman - hence the reason for US based lawyers.

Are you sure about the Qantas part? I understood it was against Airbus and Northrop Grumman.

 

[oz_mark]

Are you sure about the Qantas part? I understood it was against Airbus and Northrop Grumman.

It is (according to the complaint)

AIRBUS S.A.S.,
EPOCH SOFTWARE SYSTEMS,INC.,
MOTOROLA, INC.,
NORTHROP GRUMMAN COMPANY,
NG SYSTEMS CORPORATION,
NORTHROP GRUMMAN LITTON SYSTEMS, INC.,
DUPONT CO.,
JUDD WIRE CO., and
RAYCHEM CO.,​

 

[YQY]

Are you sure about the Qantas part? I understood it was against Airbus and Northrop Grumman.

I stand corrected....

 

[YQY]

It is (according to the complaint)

AIRBUS S.A.S.,
EPOCH SOFTWARE SYSTEMS,INC.,
MOTOROLA, INC.,
NORTHROP GRUMMAN COMPANY,
NG SYSTEMS CORPORATION,
NORTHROP GRUMMAN LITTON SYSTEMS, INC.,
DUPONT CO.,
JUDD WIRE CO., and
RAYCHEM CO.,​

Given number of the respondents are US based - it makes sense to have US based attorneys.

 

[JetLagged]

Good to see the possibility of some sensible action here - against the manufacturers rather than against the airline which flew the manufacturers product. A previous thread here showed little to no support for action against Qantas ....

 

[oz_mark]

Good to see the possibility of some sensible action here - against the manufacturers rather than against the airline which flew the manufacturers product. A previous thread here showed little to no support for action against Qantas ....

Taking on Qantas would not have been under U.S. law, but under Australian law (as it didn't happen in the U.S.). Under US law, it has more chance of success, so it needs the U.S. angle in there.

Under Australian law there may not have been much chance of a successful action.

 

[samh004]

Will they need the Qantas crew to testify, and do you think Qantas is likely to play ball and let them?

 

[yohy?!]

Any excuse to shoe-horn QF into a story as usual.

Can't say I have much sympathy for Northrop Grumman being sued but I'm sure they'll buy their way out of trouble (again)...probably too tempting a target not to go after.

 

[straitman]

It was good to see that the ABC News 24 were right on the ball with this and showed a Qantas A380 :!:


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[codash1099]

Will they need the Qantas crew to testify, and do you think Qantas is likely to play ball and let them?

I believe the pilots are part of the class action i.e., they are also suing.


Edit: Just heard an interview with the US lawyer - 3 pilots and some of the FA's have joined the class action.

 

[UP4014]

Airbus won't want to settle this one with a confidential agreement which might tarnish the reputation for future sales, on the other hand going into court risks it might open up details which aren't known at this stage even to Airbus that every Airbus has a design fault.

As this doesn't seem to be the only incident of it's type with Airbus and of course the missing Air France plane which could of quite possibly done a nose dive straight into the Atlantic.

Sweaty palms in Airbus management as well of those of the other defendants I would say.

Matt

 

[mannej]

Part of the article states that VH-QPA had an ADIRU incident August this year. Does anybody have a link or reference to this incident, or is it a lawyer trying add gloss to a case?

 

[thewinchester]

Part of the article states that VH-QPA had an ADIRU incident August this year. Does anybody have a link or reference to this incident, or is it a lawyer trying add gloss to a case?

Full index and links to reports from ATSB on incidents involving this aircraft can be found at:
Transport Safety Investigations and Reports

The specific report in question is available from:
http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2008/aair/ao-2008-070.aspx

A preliminary report was issued on 14 Nov 2008, and interim factual reports on 6 Mar 2009 and again in November 2009. No further reports have been issued since.

 

[mannej]

Full index and links to reports from ATSB on incidents involving this aircraft can be found at:
Transport Safety Investigations and Reports

The specific report in question is available from:
AO-2008-070

A preliminary report was issued on 14 Nov 2008, and interim factual reports on 6 Mar 2009 and again in November 2009. No further reports have been issued since.

Sorry Winchester, I am well aware of those reports. There is a quote on the Perthnow article from the lawyer to suggest that the ADIRU VH-QPA had another incident in August just gone.

He said the problems were still not fixed. “In August this year, this very same aircraft experienced another ADIRU malfunction while landing at Sydney.“

I can't find anything noted on the ATSB website yet, but I may not be looking hard enough as the last weekly summary I can find is for mid-August