QF175 Operating Aircraft - 21/2/07

[dasher2]

Hey All,

Anyone know where I can find out what the actual rego of the plane flying QF175 this Wednesday is?

Thanks

 

[NM]

Can't give you the rego, but according to the seatmap on ExpertFlyer, it appears you have a 3-class aircraft operating that flight. 3EF and 4EF are still unallocated.

Apart from knowing if it is 2-class or 3-class, does the rego really matter now that all 744's have AVOD installed?

 

[Evan]

Its a 744 (has AVOD) but i guess you already knew that.
I couldn't tell you the rego but somebody here may have a way to find out, problem is QF could change the plane that flies that route, Given its an LAX flight it will probably be one of the usualy 744s that flys those routes.

Are you trying to avoid plane that had a turn back recently from sydney or something ?

Evan

 

[SeaWolf]

I thought it was only the -400s, not the -300s?
I could be wrong though.

 

[Evan]

I would go further and say as its LAX it would nearrly have to be an ER model ??

747-48E 29/05/1998 VH-OEB Named Phillip Island (ER ???)
747-438/ER 06/12/2002 VH-OEE Named Nullabor
747-438/ER 31/10/2002 VH-OEF Named Sydney
747-438/ER 20/12/2002 VH-OEG Named Parkes
747-438/ER 09/02/2003 VH-OEH Named Hervey Bay
747-438/ER 26/06/2003 VH-OEI Named Ceduna
747-438/ER 30/07/2003 VH-OEJ Named Wunala Dreaming

Evan

 

[oz_mark]

I thought it was only the -400s, not the -300s?
I could be wrong though.

744's are the -400 series.

The -300 series would be 743.

 

[dasher2]

Thank everyone, normally its a 2 class 744 out of Brisbane. I think I was looking for the rego my for curiosity, recent trip to LA had a long delay back to BNE (due to mech) and while every 744 may have AVOD, I find most times there are big issues like on my last flight home. Was hoping to not have that plane! Thanks for the help!

 

[Wunala Dreaming]

Hello dasher2,

Good to see you are intersted in wanting to know your rego before the flight. I will always try and get it beforehand where possible (when I fly), although this of course isn't always possible.

I believe your flight will be operated by 3-class 744 VH-OJH (On 16th FEB QF allocated this aircraft to QF175 on WED 21st). Now like with most things this is subject to change (especially since the aircraft allocation date passed a few days ago). I have noticed that VH-OEI, -OEG, -OEE and -OJA all departed from Australia for LAX one Monday so its possible that one of those aircraft may operate your flight (arrive LAX on Monday, depart LAX on Monday, arrive in Australia on WED).

I can't promise anything, but if I am up early tomorrow, I will check the rego of the 744 that lands at Brisbane tomorrow as QF176 from LAX. If QF doesn't have any other plans, the aircraft that arrives into Brisbane tomorrow morning should be turned-around to operate QF175 back to Los Angeles.

I'm sort of hoping you get VH-OJH, as it was the second last 744 to receive AVOD, so you would hope that the system would be the most reliable.

There has been alot of 3 class action out of Brisbane recently, with Wunala Dreaming operating QF175 not so long ago.

Have a safe and pleasant flight.

Regards

 

[Wunala Dreaming]

QF 6181SYD 21FEB 08:30

QF 6182 SYD 21FEB 10:00


Hello again dasher2, I have just noticed the above 2 flights on the Brisbane Airport website. Both are repositioning flights to/from Sydney. I think the chance of you getting 3-class 744 VH-OJH for QF175 tomorrow is very high.

This is what I think will happen. I am presuming VH-OJA will land tomorrow in BNE as QF176 and will then go onto SYD at 10am as QF6182. VH-OJH will arrive in BNE at ~10am as QF6181 from SYD. It should then be prepped for the 12.10pm departure to LAX.

Hope that explains things... and I hope you aren't delayed and that they're aren't any "issues".

Regards

 

[NM]

I guess we shouldn't mention the history of VH-OJH at this time? :shock:

 

[dasher2]

Thanks Everyone,

Yep was VH-OJH and the AVOD did not skip a beat, flight was great, crew were friendly, pretty much on time and a quick tranistion through customs. So all up a pleseant journey. And don't worry NM, one of the smoothest landings with plenty of runway to spare and not a golf bunker in site

 

[NM]

Thanks Everyone,

Yep was VH-OJH and the AVOD did not skip a beat, flight was great, crew were friendly, pretty much on time and a quick tranistion through customs. So all up a pleseant journey. And don't worry NM, one of the smoothest landings with plenty of runway to spare and not a golf bunker in site

Great to hear.

On a trip on VH-OJH, I made comment about the past "incident" involving the aircraft to a fellow passenger and they were quite concerned to know. I just found it an interesting piece of trivia and of no concern at all. A bit like travelling on VH-OJB or VH-OJC and knowing it was once painted very differently.

 

[Evan]

Those were the 2 x ex MH 747-438's were they not ?

I don't see why people should be concerned atleast at this point in time regardless of some small lapses or incidents QF planes are maintained very well (Not to mention usually not too many movments, just lots of hours)

Evan

 

[NM]

Those were the 2 x ex MH 747-438's were they not ?

No VH-OJB was the original Wanala Draming (red painted aircraft) and VH-OJC was the one painted for the Melbourne F1 Grand Prix many years ago. These were the second and third QF 747-400s delivered.

The ex-Malaysia aircraft, known as two of the Ugly Sisters, as 747-4H6 registrations VH-OEC and VH-OED. The third ugly sister is ex-Asiana 747-48E VH-OEB.

And of course VH-OJH was the one that went golfing at the end of the runway at BKK.

 

[Evan]

VH-OJC , i remeber that aircraft now !
I always wondered which one it was.

What is so special about a 48E and a 46H ? what makes them different than a standard 438 ? or the ER models ?

If people decided they didn't want to fly on a plane that had some repairs in its life people would never get on a plane at all ! a lot of them have had little incidents, like the wingtip to tail at MEL by that 330 i think it was and most of the 747's have had everything from the golfing incident to huge lightening strikes and bird strikes etc.

E

 

[oz_mark]

VH-OJC , i remeber that aircraft now !
I always wondered which one it was.

What is so special about a 48E and a 46H ? what makes them different than a standard 438 ? or the ER models ?

Signifies who the plane was built for. 38 (as in 438), 8E and H6 are Boeings customer numbers (38=Qantas, 8E= Asiana and H6=Malaysia)

 

[NM]

Signifies who the plane was built for. 38 (as in 438), 8E and H6 are Boeings customer numbers (38=Qantas, 8E= Asiana and H6=Malaysia)

And the other "customer identifiers" we see regularly in the QF fleet are 36 (as in 767-336) for British Airways, and 76 (as in 737-476) being TAA/Australian Airlines.

The customer identifier is used by Boeing to define the build specifications. So all 747-438s are built originally to the same specification including engines, avionics options, cabin/galley layouts etc.

Note that other manufacturers such as Airbus and Bombardier do not use customer identifiers in the model numbers.

 

[Shano]

The customer identifier is used by Boeing to define the build specifications. So all 747-438s are built originally to the same specification including engines, avionics options, cabin/galley layouts etc.

So does that mean that all 747-438's were originally supplied with the same seating configuration as well - with subsequent changes to 2 or 3 class the reult of cabin refits to incorporate newer seat designs, skybeds, personal IFE, etc.

 

[NM]

So does that mean that all 747-438's were originally supplied with the same seating configuration as well - with subsequent changes to 2 or 3 class the reult of cabin refits to incorporate newer seat designs, skybeds, personal IFE, etc.

I don't believe the seats are part of the customer ID spec, just the galley, lavs etc. I think seats are often fitted later by a third party, either the operating airline or someone else prior to delivery.

Major options such as the emergency exit doors on the 767-300 are a good example of variations. One the BA 767-336 aircraft. there are full size doors fore and aft of the wings. On the QF 767-338 they have the smaller dual over-wing exits.

Engine specs can change over the life of a customer's model purchases, but these will generally just be minor upgrades as seen on the deliveries of the QF 747-400 fleet, where the later ones had the Trent hot end when delivered, while the earlier ones had this fitted later in their life.

 

[tuapekastar]

So does that mean that all 747-438's were originally supplied with the same seating configuration as well - with subsequent changes to 2 or 3 class the reult of cabin refits to incorporate newer seat designs, skybeds, personal IFE, etc.

If interested you can find a list of all Boeing customer code numbers here, under "Boeing Codes". Useful also for airline and airport codes and some other bits and pieces.