QF Survey of new WP/P1 / post LTG benefits

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Is there any way of finding out how many years of WP you've "served" ;)

That's a very good question, and I'd to know an accurate answer for myself. I think I've been WP since 2001 or 2002, and was P1 from the year after its inception until this year. I didn't keep all my old cards, so I can't verify this myself.
 
Another factor that doesn't seem to carry much weight with Qantas is longevity of membership. My Qantas FF number is 4 digits and I have been a Qantas Club member continuously since the first 6 months of operation, currently Platinum FF. Other organisations like American Express do give some beneficial treatment to members for their continuous loyalty. Qantas should also consider this aspect.
 
Another factor that doesn't seem to carry much weight with Qantas is longevity of membership. My Qantas FF number is 4 digits and I have been a Qantas Club member continuously since the first 6 months of operation, currently Platinum FF. Other organisations like American Express do give some beneficial treatment to members for their continuous loyalty. Qantas should also consider this aspect.

Yes, RACQ is another club that offers benefits for "length of service" for continuous membership. It was a reason I continued to pay for base-level membership even when my new-vehicle purchase offered complimentary roadside assistance.
 
Too little too late for me QF. I have already jumped ship. It is easier for me to earn LT OWE elsewhere than to reach a level where you might offer me one extra year of WP 'just because'.

As has been posted earlier - drop the LTP qualification level and QF might stop the leakage.
I totally agree with you. Have been wrestling with the same thoughts myself long before QF introduced LTP and even more so since they did so at those ridiculous levels.
This came up as a topic of conversation at the P1 dinner a couple of weeks ago and I made sure I got my point across about the disappointment with LTP and the fact that there were other options for savvy FF to get LTP elsewhere at realistic levels of earning.

I think if you have been WP for most of your working life then it’s not unreasonable to expect that this level of loyalty could and should be rewarded with LTP.
The current 75,000 SC is a joke.

I agree with the person who suggested rebranding the 75K to LTP1 and make LTP an achievable goal to make people keep flying QF beyond LTG.
I’d say 30 years at WP would be a good number so 36/40K something like that.
BA requires about 23 years of BA Gold/ OWE for the same benefit.
It’s rather sad that we will soon be seeing quite a few BA LTG enjoying the Flounge experience whilst QF’s own loyal retired flyers are off to Hungry Jacks ( J Lounge 😉)
 
I consider myself to have been fortunate to reach QF LTG, and even more fortunate to reach BA GFL.

For some reason this thread fascinates me. As I read it QF probably ought to provide some benefits to keep the ever growing band of LTG's "interested" in continuing their flying on QF metal. LTP is a far off an unattainable goal for the majority, me included.

As my business travel will come to an end next year I am interested in this. If I was in the position of falling back on LTG I'd probably still opt for QF domestically (using Avios is handy here) but internationally my plan is to fly J or F as much as I can anyway so QF, with it's inferior premium product, is not likely to be my choice unless price (insert laugh here) drives me there.

BA GFL will keep me flying OW* for the F lounge benefits (and the other benefits of traveling within an extensive partner network.).....but as a self funded traveler (I believe it is against AFF law not to state this if traveling on one's own "dime") err err well nothing will really change for me!! I will weigh up costs against benefits as I currently do and select my carrier on the outcome.

QF's problems are an inferior, yet expensive, premium cabin product, a poor frequent flyer program, and Fred Perry menus. :D

I'm certainly not going to go through the whole FF Stockhom Syndrome experience and look for the flimsiest excuse to continue to fly with QF.

*Providing OW flights meet the cost v benefit test.

Me too. I wished I'd had the benefit of your advice sooner in my life, as if it had reached me earlier, I could have got to BA GFL. Although that would have likely come at a price, and I might have missed out on fun QF P1 things like a turn in the simulator.

+1 and decided on becoming self-funded travellers, which we're 11 months into, and moving countries, that class of flying, schedule and the value proposition the combination of those factors offered would determine future flight buying. So far this year we've travelled on JL, CX, QF, AA, BA, NZ and WS. Next year will be UA, AA, BA and WS (so far). Since moving to YVR, QF is a long way down on the list of options, offering as it does limited and largely unsatisfactory options from YVR. That said, a lot of our flying this year has been and next year will be North American flying, hence AA, UA and WS featuring.

I did think about how and whether we could retain any status on QF above our respective LTGs (me at 63,000 SCs and +1 at 20,000 SCs). The upshot is we could have done it (by doing a couple of "status runs" when back in Australia for a wedding next year), but it would have meant trying to fly exclusively OW from YVR for everything, which would have become rather a bore as limiting us to AA for North American sectors and having to transit through the US for Canadian cross country journeys. Now as a self-funded traveller, I'm looking for as few connections as possible, a mid to lunchtime departure from YVR, as few red-eyes as possible, etc etc. QF simply cannot deliver any of that to someone living in YVR.

Lounge access is important to us, but that has largely been taken care of by class of flying (we only travel J or F), my Amex Platinum charge card and the Amex Centurion lounge and Priority Pass benefits, which we've found to be very useful flying in North America, and longer term our QF LTG benefits. It would have been nice to still access F lounges forever, but the price of getting there was too much - another 13,000 SCs with QF would taken 4 or so years at my working life levels of flying, and in self-funded flying life, I think I'd die before I got there.

I will watch any forthcoming announcements from QF with great interest, and in particular, whether there is any grandfathering. I don't have much faith that QF will do anything that anyone here would regard as particularly attractive (LTP is a great example), but it will be interesting to watch.
 
This.
What they really need to do is relabel what they launched as "Lifetime Platinum" as "Lifetime Platinum One".
Then launch a true "Lifetime Platinum" with the threshold at the sensible, consistent level of 28,000 SCs.
That would leave the threshold for the new Lifetime Platinum One level as only slightly inconsisent with every other lifetime status level.
If it was consistent it would be 20 x 3,600 (annual P1 threshold) = 72,000.
I am a new member to AFF but have enjoyed reading the various threads on topics of interest to me.

One is status level and the benefits thereof to the frequent flyer along with access to use points accumulated. I have been a dedicated Qantas Flyer effectively all my business life and as a consequence I have achieved Life Time Platinum with over 76,000 credits and have also been P1 since its inception. I agree with the comments above and believe as getting to LTP, apart from costing an awful lot of money shows extraordinary brand loyalty. I agree that to keep people motivated between LTG and LTP the establishment of a middle hurdle will give more motivation to stay loyal. The concept of LTP being that reward would workin my opinion. Obviously having self interest at heart having achieved LTP the establishment of a new level LTP1, after reaching 75000 credits is something to strive for. You do get used to the extra benefits attached but particularly the priority it gives you for upgrades particularly for family members as well as partner and extra family membership status at platinum and gold levels and the sometimes better access to reward seats. I have accrued and used a lot of points over my time but still have over 15m currently which I intend to use in my retirement whenever that might be but not long i hope. The LTP1 status would be very helpful in doing so and a just reward for that loyalty shown over 40+ years.
 
Being able to accumulate leftover SC (similar to the way SQ PPS works) into this 'superannuation fund' would also be great
While I like the idea of being able to choose when to use my leftover SC better, I think they are far more likely to go your method and just roll them into the next year, possibly with an expiry so they can't be held for long enough to ever build up to WP.
Would Qantas need to start creating their own special characters for footnotes? I think they've used up all the other ones.
They can start here. Apologies off-topic.
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I have been a dedicated Qantas Flyer effectively all my business life and as a consequence I have achieved Life Time Platinum with over 76,000 credits and have also been P1 since its inception.
I presume like other LTP members who have posted on AFF, you have had a phone call to say you have the new level, but the card wont be printed/sent for (insert number here) months and they've been light on the rest of the details – which gives the impression that they hadn't truly fleshed the level out before announcing it.
 
It’s rather sad that we will soon be seeing quite a few BA LTG enjoying the Flounge experience whilst QF’s own loyal retired flyers are off to Hungry Jacks ( J Lounge

This is no issue for Qantas, right, since BA has to pay Qantas for each entry making this a revenue stream. Whereas the cost of supplying LTP with lounge access would come from some general budget.
 
I presume like other LTP members who have posted on AFF, you have had a phone call to say you have the new level, but the card wont be printed/sent for (insert number here) months and they've been light on the rest of the details – which gives the impression that they hadn't truly fleshed the level out before announcing it.
That's right. It was pretty underwhelming actually with a basic run through of what you get for Platinum status which as you know we are pretty much aware of to have reached LTP in the first place. Yes sometime in the new year was when there would be further correspondence. I did read somewhere when the LTP was first announced that there might be further benefits accruing beyond those of platinum but time will tell.
 
This is a variation of what I requested when I retired. If Qantas had gone back a bit further with their loyalty review, I would have retired lifetime silver! I have since climbed to Gold and back twice! Not worth losing sleep over!
 
I’ll take NZ’s Banked Year which is offered once at 2400 SC’s and their new status head start and status boost benefit. Wouldn’t be too hard for QF to do something similar.
 
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That's right. It was pretty underwhelming actually with a basic run through of what you get for Platinum status which as you know we are pretty much aware of to have reached LTP in the first place. Yes sometime in the new year was when there would be further correspondence. I did read somewhere when the LTP was first announced that there might be further benefits accruing beyond those of platinum but time will tell.

Does LTP at least show on your digital card accessed through the app like it does for those that are LTS and LTG?
 
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Yes, RACQ is another club that offers benefits for "length of service" for continuous membership.

Even the CBA made a comment on the phone the other day as to how long I'd banked with them!!! (Whether or not they noticed that for a several periods I just held a savings account there and took all my mortgages, business and Super banking elsewhere ;) . Now back with them though.)
 
It’s rather sad that we will soon be seeing quite a few BA LTG enjoying the Flounge experience whilst QF’s own loyal retired flyers are off to Hungry Jacks ( J Lounge 😉)

i see this as a positive for my circumstances. :p It could be a selling point for QF too, i can see the marketing pitch now....."Reach LTG and bugger off to another program so they can pay for your lounge access...we'll make the lounges lovely though!" :p:p
 
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