QF F lounge in Singapore

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mrsa

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Sorry for basic question ....
I have an upcoming BNE-LHR in J on QF and am hoping for upgrade to F on the SIN-LHR leg. I have 3 hours in SIN: assuming I get the F upgrade, is there a QF F lounge as opposed to the usual QF lounge? If so, is it much better?
Thanks
 
mrsa said:
Sorry for basic question ....
I have an upcoming BNE-LHR in J on QF and am hoping for upgrade to F on the SIN-LHR leg. I have 3 hours in SIN: assuming I get the F upgrade, is there a QF F lounge as opposed to the usual QF lounge? If so, is it much better?
Thanks

(a) Yes

(b) No

Dave
 
mrsa said:
Sorry for basic question ....
I have an upcoming BNE-LHR in J on QF and am hoping for upgrade to F on the SIN-LHR leg. I have 3 hours in SIN: assuming I get the F upgrade, is there a QF F lounge as opposed to the usual QF lounge? If so, is it much better?
Thanks
Yes, there is quite a nice Qantas First lounge in Singapore. Good luck with your upgrade.
 
I agree with serfty. Even not having to pay the $7SGD for tiger beer makes you feel good:!:
 
Robert Barlow said:
I agree with serfty. Even not having to pay the $7SGD for tiger beer makes you feel good:!:

but you don't need to pay for beer in the Qantas Club lounge there anyway. Don't see that the Flounge at SIN is that good

Dave
 
Dave Noble said:
Don't see that the Flounge at SIN is that good
I agree - there are a few more choices of food and it is generally not as crowded. Aside from that, there is little difference.

However the SQ F lounge is another story. Noice.
 
The showers are good and normally not to long of a wait. Also no lining up in corridors like QP dom SYD, they give you a paging disc.

Food is replenished quickly
 
Agree with the showers in the F lounge being very good, one of the better ones I have used and most welcome whilst in transit to BNE after a long trip from Paris like I had last week! Cest la vie , thats life in F
 
serfty said:
Good luck with your upgrade.
Thanks serfty I hope so.
But ..... now I'm a tad worried as I rang up for a seat allocation, and for the SIN-LHR leg they told me that only 23E was available: everything else was taken

Questions:
1. Presume 23E isn't the greatest seat available? Or is it okay?
2. When presented with the option of taking this seat or putting in a request for another (eg aisle lower deck or wondow upper deck), what should one do? Are there tactics that I should be adopting, eg ringing up every day to see whether I can get a better seat ... or is this futile?
3. Does this mean J is chockers, or could it be that there are some seats blocked for me to be allocated (afer all, I am Gold, not Platinum status)?
4. If I don't take 23E as an allocation, I presume I will still get a seat regardless (ie can't be bumped back)? *looks around and shivers*

Still hoping for upgrade to F, but guess if J is that full there may well be CL/Platinum ahead of me to be upgraded.
 
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mrsa said:
Questions:
1. Presume 23E isn't the greatest seat available? Or is it okay?
Nope, its not a good seat. Probably the best of the middle seats, but all middle seats are to be avoided at all costs.
mrsa said:
2. When presented with the option of taking this seat or putting in a request for another (eg aisle lower deck or wondow upper deck), what should one do? Are there tactics that I should be adopting, eg ringing up every day to see whether I can get a better seat ... or is this futile?
I would be checking at least daily. Personally, I would be using ExpertFlyer or some other tool that lets you view the seatmap on-line. Things do change, with people changing flights and cancelling.
mrsa said:
3. Does this mean J is chockers, or could it be that there are some seats blocked for me to be allocated (afer all, I am Gold, not Platinum status)?
Yes, it sounds like it is very full. As far as I know, the only J seats that are blocked for Gold/Platinum members are row 16 - the upper deck exit row.
mrsa said:
4. If I don't take 23E as an allocation, I presume I will still get a seat regardless (ie can't be bumped back)? *looks around and shivers*
You have probably already been placed into 23E. Its VERY rare for QF to bump J passengers. I know some people will have stories of that happening, but its very rare. You should be hoping that a Platinum member has been allocated row 16 or some other good seat and is successful in their request for an upgrade to F. Of course, even better if you are the one to score the upgrade!

I suggest that if you don't find a better pre-allocation seat, that you check-in early and request a better seat then. And if still stuck in 23E, let the lounge agent know you are very disappointed with the seat allocation and could they please, please see if something better pops up as available as the flight closes.
 
Thanks v much for the advice NM,

Expertflyer shows the following information for that flight:
F4 A3 Z0 P0 J5 C0 D0 I0 U0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 R9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 T0 X0 E0


So, from this J doesn't appear to be full then? Unfortauntely the seat map for J would not show for that flight.

Is there any advantage to locking into 23E or just remaining "without" an allocated seat or just trying on the phone every now and then and again at check-in as you suggest?
 
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It shows that QF is still willing to sell 5 business class tickets for that flight. They may be willing to oversell the flight, knowing from experience that some cancellations are expected. Note that Qantas does a far better job at this type of yield management that most other airlines.

It may also mean that some row 16 seats are still in reserve and not allocated.

I doubt there is any advantage with no taking 23E today and continuing to search/request for something better.
 
mrsa said:
Is there any advantage to locking into 23E or just remaining "without" an allocated seat or just trying on the phone every now and then and again at check-in as you suggest?

Given that 23E is one of the worst seats , I cannot see any benefit in selecting it. I would just keep trying for something better or failng that, try get an aisle at check in.

Dave
 
Thanks again NM and Dave.
I noticed this morning on EF that 26A&B were now available and was impressed to find that this was indeed correct when I rang QANTAS (is EF usually this accurate?). What are ppl's feelings about the relative merits of lower deck seats A or B for SIN-LHR leg (I am hoping to sleep rather than work on this leg): better to have the aisle (with the possibility of someone disturbing me by clambering over me to go to the WC) or the window (with the possibility of me needing to do this to someone else)?
I have taken B for now, pending advice to the contrary.

Thanks again
 
mrsa said:
Thanks again NM and Dave.
I noticed this morning on EF that 26A&B were now available and was impressed to find that this was indeed correct when I rang QANTAS (is EF usually this accurate?). What are ppl's feelings about the relative merits of lower deck seats A or B for SIN-LHR leg (I am hoping to sleep rather than work on this leg): better to have the aisle (with the possibility of someone disturbing me by clambering over me to go to the WC) or the window (with the possibility of me needing to do this to someone else)?
I have taken B for now, pending advice to the contrary.

Thanks again

I would take the B seat if it is an overnight flight; I would rather be in a position to get up without worrying about disturbing someone than be in the A seat

Dave
 
I like to consume copious amount of water when flying and hence prefer an aisle so I can easily make room for some more.

If you are someone who stays put in their seat, then a window is good.
 
mrsa said:
Thanks again NM and Dave.
I noticed this morning on EF that 26A&B were now available and was impressed to find that this was indeed correct when I rang QANTAS (is EF usually this accurate?). What are ppl's feelings about the relative merits of lower deck seats A or B for SIN-LHR leg (I am hoping to sleep rather than work on this leg): better to have the aisle (with the possibility of someone disturbing me by clambering over me to go to the WC) or the window (with the possibility of me needing to do this to someone else)?
I have taken B for now, pending advice to the contrary.
Just to be different, I would be going for an F seat, if it was me.

As has been noted, the E seats are the worst on offer, and are therefore the last to go. There is a reasonably good chance that you might end up with nobody next to you, and this would have to be a bonus.

If you do end up with someone next to you, there is a 50/50 chance that they will climb over you to go to the conveniences, but since they are located on the port side, they will probably climb over the person seated in the D seat (rather than you), if they are aware of where the conveniences are located. If you are in a B seat, there is a 100% chance that they will be climbing over you.

Dave
 
thadocta said:
Just to be different, I would be going for an F seat, if it was me.

Good point and I agree, however no F (or D) seats were available. In fact the only seats available at that time were 26A&B and 23E, so I guess that 26B is the pick of these. Checking EF has revealed some subsequent changes in the seat availablity (eg 18A opened up at one stage), but nothing better than 26B from what I could see. I guess I will try for a better seat closer to the flight and on check in, but at least it looks like I have avoided one of the E seats for now.
Thanks again for the advice
 
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