QF Double Status Credit Promos - I am not 100% sure I follow the logic anymore...

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Although I don't need QF DSC at the moment, I have saved about $1000 with VA during their DSC promotion.

Today I am flying MEL-BNE on VA and this flight will male me VA GOLD!!! Only 6 flights in J at about $500 each - 4 in normal period, 2 in DSC.

So I have gone from zero to GOLD HERO in 4 months!

Do I try for VA Plat? Or just rest here??? So many choices!!! OMG?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
 
Shouldn't this query be in the VA forum?
Probably - but who cares? - it is about DSC ! Plus I did mention "QF" in my comment.. so technically on point.... QF seemed to target me with DSC when I don't need them (hence the origin of this discussion), yet VA, whether by coincidence or as part of a specific promo, gave it to me exactly at the right time!
 
The thing is that QFF clearly sees P1 (Giddy heights... lol) as "rusted on" and basically take those members for granted in respect that either the spend continues and they make P1 again, or they don't, but even if they don't make P1, their spend will most likely be still fairly substantial with QF due to long term loyalty (or stockholm syndrome perhaps :) ).

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I'm not sure the maths supports your argument. I'm currently into my second year as P1. I've gone back and looked at the numbers and without DSC, I wouldn't have got over the line. I would have come close, but 3400 isn't 3600. Looking at it another way, given my travel and routes over the last 12 months, I would have had to try really hard not to make WP but P1 was DSC blessed.
Based on that, I can see a really strong argument to absolutely minimise my Qantas spend. The regional flights and Jetstar Max bundles will push me over the 1200 regardless. Everything else, go VA and collect status there. I'm not feeling any Stockholm syndrome holding me but I must confess to feeling a bit sad as I actually enjoy my Qantas travel, but a change can be a holiday.
 
I'm not sure the maths supports your argument. I'm currently into my second year as P1. I've gone back and looked at the numbers and without DSC, I wouldn't have got over the line. I would have come close, but 3400 isn't 3600. Looking at it another way, given my travel and routes over the last 12 months, I would have had to try really hard not to make WP but P1 was DSC blessed.
Based on that, I can see a really strong argument to absolutely minimise my Qantas spend. The regional flights and Jetstar Max bundles will push me over the 1200 regardless. Everything else, go VA and collect status there. I'm not feeling any Stockholm syndrome holding me but I must confess to feeling a bit sad as I actually enjoy my Qantas travel, but a change can be a holiday.
I don't know if this was ever discussed anywhere else (so many threads too hard to keep up!), but the requirement of P1 to fly on mostly QF metal means that there are HEAPS of QF FF members who are not P1, but whose SC count is well and truly above 3600.... either by choice (probs) or just circumstance, they do not fly QF metal a lot but QF is their home airline.

One such person, a colleague of mine, routinely chooses CX over QF always in J, and is totally happy that with his decision to not attain P1, but to instead fly on CX in what he considers to be a better airline.
 
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Honestly I much prefer SQ's product - hard and specially soft - to QF in so many respects...
I would almost 100% agree except when it comes to the lounges?? I haven't flown them out of SIN for years, but even at the time when QF had its new glam F lounge in SYD and MEL, I was completely shocked at the sorry state of the SQ F lounge in SIN.... was nothing special. Actually quite terrible. Which was in such contrast to the product on board - which was amazing!

I had the pleasure of commuting between Singapore and Jakarta for work some years back - maybe 10 trips? Can't remember. But all flown in SQ F (their regional F product on 777 was still pretty amazing). Once it was during Ramadan so nobody was eating or drinking so I think I ate everything on board... and drank 2 bottle of Dom... sigh

Prices were also about the same as QF Flex MEL-SYD (so within my budget) I do love it that the bean counters in many Australian companies are so used to the outrageous prices we pay domestically, that when you put in an expense claim for a trip in another country at a similar price they don't even notice it is F and not Y.... :)
 
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Let me clarify (sorry folks, you know how verbose I can be!) my comment about QFF's views on P1.

As far as anyone knows there's only a few thousand P1 members within QFF. A few years back it was suggested around 3000. I'd say with DSC and the like it's maybe doubled or at least possibly around 5000. It's a tiny fraction of the ~13m QFF members at any rate.

However those who may take advantage of DSC to hti P1 such as nutwood and myself (though I have made it with zero bonus SC offers too) are going to be a small number overall. Why do I suggest that?

The REAL P1's are the absolute road warriors - more than likely on business travel - and also more than likely with corporate travel policies and accounts that tie them to QF. Even if not, certain pax will be forced to be loyal to QF if schedule and reach meets their goals (I am thinking of regional Australia here mostly). And the self funded P1's who use DSC? Still valued by QF because if they did not bother and gave their business to VA or SQ or whoever then QF is still winning from that revenue they otherwise would miss out on - even if it's a small amount.

And yes the 2700 QF/JQ SC earn requirement absolutely ensures maximum exposure to QF and thus revenue to them for those flyers.

My point about being "rusted on" is that there are a lot of people out there, a bit like political parties, that will go with what they know and like, een if they disagree with some policies (or service aspects) because either they just can't stomach the other options, or they just don't care enough to change.

And once at the P1 level there's no incentive to provide further offers for QF becauser the logic would be that those passengers will still epsnd more than their fair share with QF. It may be flawed, and people can and do vote with their feet/walets, but there's also going to be a flow back the other way, so that "spend away" factor may even be very little over the courtse of time.

It may be changing in the younger generations but I am sure many of us have all heard people say without pause "I fly QF all the time no matter what. They're Australian. Our family has always flown them" - and barring some horrendous experiences that feeling will probably stay for many people - at least that is what QF is banking on to a certain extent.

The swinging voters, as it were, are the ones QF will care about - and how may they do that? Well if I drop from P1 to WP then LTG due to little flying it's likely they would (or should from their POV) throw me some bonus offers to try and induce me back. It may work, or I may decide I prefer SQ or VA or NZ or whoever.

There's one of those sayings out there about it's much easier to retain a customer than to get new ones" - and I think that's the general logic going on with QF. If they figure they have us already then there's no need to keep throwing stuff at us - it doesn't make a lot of sense. While if I'm a newbie, then I'd thnk they'd want to work hard to lure me in.

The actions of indivuals, even in a group as small as say 5-10k, probably don't matter that much to QFF - if we stay or if we go - but trends and groups that move, and they see a resultant revenue loss (as let's face it, P1's are generating a fair amount of revenue for them)... that will possibly get some action.

All IMO of course.

And on SQ lounges - my more recent experiences have been SQ TPR at SIN which of course is very nice. Not quite the QF Flounge, but very very good (and way better bubbles!) and SYD F lounge - which is a very very nice pre-flight offering. Usually if I am flying SQ it's in F or J, and with that in mind I tend to wrry less about the lounge offerings because in flight is usually brilliant on so many levels. I do the same with QF too - eg I won't worry so much about wine or champ in the QF F lounges if I'm flying F out of there, but will if I'm going J. That probably sounds snobby actually but all I really mean is that I tend to prepare for my whole experience and plan accordingly :) Heck some lounges I merely use as a quick pit stop between or before flights and all I have is a water or coffee and a place to read the paper. Everyone's mileage varies of course.
 
That probably sounds snobby
100% snobby.
And 100% agree :cool:

I have tried to stick to the "pre-flight" dining concept.... eat in the lounge, just sleep on the plane.... never pans out. I just end up eating twice :)
 
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Qantas currently only has a single sale on at the moment (Tasmania), which ends tonight.

Last year Qantas had a DSC offer starting Thursday 11 October.

Wonder if we might get a DSC offer starting this Thursday 10 October ...
 
Would be nice. QF likes to be unpredictable with DSC offers though. The whole point is to encourage flyers to do one/more of:
1. Book extra flights they would not have otherwise booked
2. Book flights earlier than they would otherwise
3. Book to fly in a better cabin than they would have otherwise

What they don’t want is to get so predictable that flyers know for certain more/less when an offer will drop and hold off on booking when they otherwise would have booked without the offer.
 
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I'm the ideal "Guinea Pig" for a targeted offer.

I made P1 for the first time this year with 4100SC.

Next year I reckon I'll earn 100. And I'll still be P1. Drop to WP for 2021 and LTG 2022 forward.

Reason - I retired, and I'd rather be at home. Do QF know that? - Unlikely, but what they do know is that I wasn't shy spending dough to get up the food chain.

It'll be interesting to see if I get targeted.
 
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Would be nice. QF likes to be unpredictable with DSC offers though. The whole point is to encourage flyers to do one/more of:
1. Book extra flights they would not have otherwise booked
2. Book flights earlier than they would otherwise
3. Book to fly in a better cabin than they would have otherwise

What they don’t want is to get so predictable that flyers know for certain more/less when an offer will drop and hold off on booking when they otherwise would have booked without the offer.

While I completely agree, the horse has already bolted, so to speak.

Having already done DSC offers two Februaries in a row, people are expecting a repeat of last year: that is, one sometime in the second half of this year, probably in October/November.

Thus, people are already holding off on making bookings. All that Qantas is doing now is depriving themselves of revenue from people who are waiting for a DSC offer.

Search Twitter for "Qantas double" and you'll see plenty of people saying that they are holding off bookings waiting for the next DSC offer to arise.
 
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I'm the ideal "Guinea Pig" for a targeted offer.

I made P1 for the first time this year with 4100SC.

Next year I reckon I'll earn 100. And I'll still be P1. Drop to WP for 2021 and LTG 2022 forward.

Reason - I retired, and I'd rather be at home. Do QF know that? - Unlikely, but what they do know is that I wasn't shy spending dough to get up the food chain.

It'll be interesting to see if I get targeted.
I agree. It will be interesting. Presumably, if you're going to drop from 4100 to 100, the trend line of your Qantas spend is going to look like it went over a cliff. If that doesn't trigger some sort of response, nothing will!
Are you planning on a bunch of award flying, whilst you're still P1?
 
I hope there is a DSC offer. If there is one that covers domestic I expect to make at least one booking, maybe multiple bookings.
 
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I hope there is a DSC offer. If there is one that covers domestic I expect to make at least one booking, maybe multiple bookings.

I have a number of international economy flight bookings to make in the next month.

If a DSC offer comes along, I will book them with Qantas because they will be enough to re-qualify for WP.

If a DSC offer does not come along, I will book them with OneWorld competitors because I can still access the lounge beforehand, and they are cheaper than Qantas.

So either Qantas offers a DSC and we both win, or Qantas does not offer a DSC, and they lose and my wallet wins.
 
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It's easy to see the dilemma Qantas have. If they do DSC offers at a predictable time each year, bookings are delayed in anticipation of the offer. Personally, I thought three offers last year was silly but perhaps the intent was to introduce uncertainty. My feeling was that it made more people start expecting an offer, resulting in delayed bookings. Some of these delayed bookings probably went elsewhere as rusted on customers started looking around at alternatives, rather than just booking with Qantas, as they always had in the past.
I suspect also, human nature being what it is, three offers in one year and then none, is likely to cause a certain amount of resentment. Someone who makes WP each year, courtesy of a DSC status run, and then fails to qualify due to the lack of an offer, is far more likely to be upset than grateful for the previous offers.
 
It's easy to see the dilemma Qantas have.

Completely agree with this sentiment, but I have no sympathy for Qantas. The problem is entirely of their own making. Someone in marketing came up with the idea a few years back that a DSC offer would incentivise people to book additional flights with Qantas. It clearly worked, so they kept doing it. If they stop, they will see a return to the pre-DSC era where more people are more likely to purchase according to price/service/schedule, criteria where Qantas is average at best, especially in the international market where there is heaps of competition.

It is the same as regular sales. Sales clearly boost flight purchases on Qantas. Some people now only book flights during sales. If Qantas decide to stop offering sales, those people will book elsewhere because competitors are cheaper/better/etc.
 
I got a targeted "3000 points extra offer" when I fly to India, Myanmar or Vietnam from QF and I was like "WHAT!!?!?!?!?!?!?!" really, just 3000 bonus points ??

I fly a lot to India and did around 6 trips this year, all with QF and that's how they knew my flying pattern.

3000 bonus isn't going to lure me into a booking with QF. A DSC on the other hand, CERTAINLY will :)
 
Can you use the DSC promotion for unlimited bookings during the travel time frame?
 
Can you use the DSC promotion for unlimited bookings during the travel time frame?

Yes, but note that they are limited in time.

For example, the February 2019 DSC offer was limited to Qantas-operated flights with a QF flight number taken between 25 February and 31 August 2019.
 
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