Qantas to fly to Delhi from Sydney & Melbourne

[Melburnian1]

SYD - DEL via ADL had stopped end of Mar, no flights originating in SYD - ADL - DEL since 23/03/22.
QF would earn some $ from savvy ADL based Indians wanting to go to DEL direct, and to pick up freight.
With the only one flight now, QF would be making some $.
Haven't checked to see if QF 067 is flying SYD - DEL direct at the moment or not.

No QF67/68 flights at the moment.

Greater Melbourne has a larger Indian diaspora than Greater Sydney.

 

[AIRwin]

4x weekly:

Sydney <> Bengaluru (Bangalore)

14 September 2022

QF website has been updated with the lounge info for BLR in advance of the inaugural flight tomorrow:
https://www.qantas.com/au/en/qantas...:heading-and-links:asia-airport-lounges:en:nn

 

[AIRwin]

Inaugural flight QF67 is now on the way from SYD to BLR being operated by A332 VH-EBP

 

[SeatBackForward]

As per my previous prediction on SYD<>DEL, I'll wager SYD<>BLR wont be around this time in 2023 either.

 

[Mattg]

As per my previous prediction on SYD<>DEL, I'll wager SYD<>BLR wont be around this time in 2023 either.

Is Qantas required to serve the route for a minimum amount of time as part of the funding agreement with SYD/NSW government?

 

[ethernet]

Because MH, AirAsia and others are back in business, seats full. AnotherAFF'ed said use point to get to Asia, and buy a cheap ticket from there. I can tell you many from SEA check all the prices keenly. I have not flown QF for 20 years, because I never found a deal, and am sold on Emirates if there is a choice.

 

[SeatBackForward]

Is Qantas required to serve the route for a minimum amount of time as part of the funding agreement with SYD/NSW government?

Like how they received JobKeeper?

 

[Sprucegoose]

How are the loadings on this route?

I am sure it would be profitable.

I would like to visit Delhi one day....

 

[jpp42]

I suspect these flights will be axed once mainland China routes start to recover. India has poor premium cabin yield compared to China; India is only a stopgap measure to keep the airframes busy.

 

[AIRwin]

I suspect these flights will be axed once mainland China routes start to recover. India has poor premium cabin yield compared to China; India is only a stopgap measure to keep the airframes busy.

I read from another thread that the flights are performing well?

 

[Mr H]

I suspect these flights will be axed once mainland China routes start to recover. India has poor premium cabin yield compared to China; India is only a stopgap measure to keep the airframes busy.

On my case study of one flight last October DEL-MEL, the J section was pretty full.

 

[Cognac]

I suspect these flights will be axed once mainland China routes start to recover. India has poor premium cabin yield compared to China; India is only a stopgap measure to keep the airframes busy.

Source?

 

[mbell1510]

BITRE's latest international airline activity report for October 2022 showed that Qantas had a flight utilisation rate of 94.3% on its flights to and from India so I'd say you wouldn't get rid of flights with those kinds of loads. Air India had a 95.9 per cent utilisation rate so plenty of demand between the two countries.

For comparison UK flights were 98.6% full, US at 95.1%, Italy (3 flights at 99.4%, Phillippins (96.1%) and Singapore/South Africa with 98%.

 

[HS-TQE]

A full plane doesn't equal profit in the Airline industry, however it'll be interesting to see what the yields in J are for SYD/MEL to India, and whether if people are paying "Top Dollar!" for J or if they are mostly 'redemptions/upgrades/sale J fares'.

 

[Mr H]

A full plane doesn't equal profit in the Airline industry, however it'll be interesting to see what the yields in J are for SYD/MEL to India, and whether if people are paying "Top Dollar!" for J or if they are mostly 'redemptions/upgrades/sale J fares'.

If a full plane does not equal profit it is difficult to see how the airline could continue to trade.

 

[HS-TQE]

If a full plane does not equal profit it is difficult to see how the airline could continue to trade.

Its all about the yields, not the loads.
Plane after plane can go out full but if it's full of people on low yielding budget fares, it's still losses stacking up and the airline has a severe yield problem.

 

[Sprucegoose]

A full plane doesn't equal profit in the Airline industry

I would say it would be a bloody good start.

Its all about the yields, not the loads

Sure, but a higher load will result in a higher yield surely.................................ceteris paribus!

 

[levelnine]

but a higher load will result in a higher yield surely

Not necessarily.

It depends on the market and the competitive environment.

If the market (ie the customers) can only bear a certain price, your only options are (1) raise prices and fly empty planes or (2) lower prices and fly full planes with low yielding customers.

If the competitive environment is strong, your only options are (1) raise prices and watch your competitor fly full planes or (2) lower prices and fly full planes with low yielding customers.

My guess is India isn't a particularly profitable market and QF has some stiff competition in the form of a bunch of low cost one-stop competitors, which appeal to the bulk of price-sensitive customers.

If you're in that scenario, you're always hunting for better opportunities. China could very easily be one once it gets going at full pace again.

 

[BD1959]

I think we've seen previously with QF that they are prepared to sacrifice a load intensive route for another with higher yields. Obviously there is back-arts at play here because I'd have thought that the investment cost of setting up the route would also need to be considered in the comparative yield figures.

Regards,

BD

 

[CaptJCool]

Not necessarily.

It depends on the market and the competitive environment.

If the market (ie the customers) can only bear a certain price, your only options are (1) raise prices and fly empty planes or (2) lower prices and fly full planes with low yielding customers.

If the competitive environment is strong, your only options are (1) raise prices and watch your competitor fly full planes or (2) lower prices and fly full planes with low yielding customers.

My guess is India isn't a particularly profitable market and QF has some stiff competition in the form of a bunch of low cost one-stop competitors, which appeal to the bulk of price-sensitive customers.

If you're in that scenario, you're always hunting for better opportunities. China could very easily be one once it gets going at full pace again.

Would it be though proftiable as the PAX ex Australia payin the higher fares vis a vis Indian citizens flying here from Delhi ?
I know the average Indian earns $1 a day, the average Aussie a lot more
And there’s wealthy people in all countries

I didn’t think QF were doing it as a charitable public service ?