Qantas Project Sunrise goes ahead, 12 new A350-1000s ordered

Think it really depends on global demand for F.. plenty of airlines have dumped it entirely with pax finding the J with door sufficient.

It was looking that way but seems to have reversed in recent years.

LAX-SYD is a celeb heavy route, as long as people are paying (and it seems they are), I can't see QF getting rid of it. A350 will have fewer F seats, similar to BA's twins, so I think it's almost guaranteed going forward. The fact the US airlines have or will dump them only strengthen the case for QF to keep it.
 
Perth and Sydney also have a much higher proportion of British born residents than MEL (or BNE) does so that doesn’t help.
Yup spot on, have said this before - Perth UK born population is ~9.7%, myself being one of them. Sydney is only ~3.5% on the other hand, but being a global city, has much more of a claim to supporting PS with far stronger ties to London than Melbourne does. This likely also partly plays into why QF9/10 ex-MEL was cancelled.
 
Yup spot on, have said this before - Perth UK born population is ~9.7%, myself being one of them. Sydney is only ~3.5% on the other hand, but being a global city, has much more of a claim to supporting PS with far stronger ties to London than Melbourne does. This likely also partly plays into why QF9/10 ex-MEL was cancelled.

But percentages don't fill seats, total numbers do.

I'm Australian born and I go to the UK at least once often twice a year, so it's not everything.
 
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But percentages don't fill seats, total numbers do.

I'm Australian born and I go to the UK at least once often twice a year, so it's not everything.
PER-LHR is commonly regarded one of the most profitable route QF fly. Seats are almost always full. Average flight load is 94% according to QF. I am sure they would not have axed the MEL leg of QF9/10 if it would have impacted flight load significantly.
 
PER-LHR is commonly regarded one of the most profitable route QF fly. Seats are almost always full. Average flight load is 94% according to QF. I am sure they would not have axed the MEL leg of QF9/10 if it would have impacted flight load significantly.

I'm not saying you're wrong, just pointing out it's strange to say because one smaller city has a higher percentage of UK born than a larger city - and I know you weren't the first to say this.

Saying that PER has more UK born than MEL is valid - it was just weird to be talking about proportions or percentages. They're irrelevant.

And then of course my point that many people flying to LHR are Australian born.

PER-LHR is very popular, but I think that's mostly a function of being the most westerly capital and a logical gateway for Europe. You can barely get a CR seat on QF1/2 either so - breaking news, Aussies like flying to London.
 

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