Qantas Project Sunrise goes ahead, 12 new A350-1000s ordered

[Aeryn]

They also said they'd fly BNE-ORD at one point, among many others.

Covid killed that, a shame cause after NY, Chicago is my next most visited US city. I'd love to see this revived, ORD is far more appealing than LAX or SFO for me, and would avoid a transfer in DFW.

 

[elanshin]

Covid killed that, a shame cause after NY, Chicago is my next most visited US city. I'd love to see this revived, ORD is far more appealing than LAX or SFO for me, and would avoid a transfer in DFW.

I have to imagine it's because of a lack of planes and now US demand sentiments.

I wonder if they would relaunch ORD, would they do AKL -ORD to compliment AKL-JFK catch the NZ market at the same time and use the new AKL lounge.

 

[LionKing]

I have to imagine it's because of a lack of planes and now US demand sentiments.

I wonder if they would relaunch ORD, would they do AKL -ORD to compliment AKL-JFK catch the NZ market at the same time and use the new AKL lounge.

I just don't think there's any business case to open any new US port for now.
I would even say, if SYD/MEL-JFK direct is launched in 2027, very likely we will see a reduction in SYD-AKL-JFK to 2 - 3 weekly, which I hope it will spare a B789 for MEL-SIN route to replace JQ B788 for more profitable routes, such as HKG.

 

[elanshin]

I just don't think there's any business case to open any new US port for now.
I would even say, if SYD/MEL-JFK direct is launched in 2027, very likely we will see a reduction in SYD-AKL-JFK to 2 - 3 weekly, which I hope it will spare a B789 for MEL-SIN route to replace JQ B788 for more profitable routes, such as HKG.

No I do not expect a reduction on AKL - JFK. You forget this is catching all the NZ traffic too because QF is slaughtering NZ on this route.

There are plenty of business cases to explore US expansion. Just because the current administration has problems doesn't mean that by the time you can launch a route they'd still be around. It takes quite a bit of time and planning to launch something like ORD.

Also whilst we understand you have a favouritism for HKG, there are lots of other lower hanging fruits. CX is exceptionally dominent to HKG and for the price conscious, the mainland carriers are exceptionally competitive as a 1 stop option.

 

[moa999]

And the reason CX is dominant is that HKG is often a transit airport to multiple Chinese destinations.

Suspect CX doesn't give QF particularly good codeshare rates, and they don't really need to as CX fly to almost all Australian ports so they don't need reciprocity. Hence QF also has codeshare options with MU and CZ.

 

[dajop]

No I do not expect a reduction on AKL - JFK. You forget this is catching all the NZ traffic too because QF is slaughtering NZ on this route.

As well as MEL and BNE traffic, with the easier transfer at AKL vs SYD.

 

[SYD]

As well as MEL and BNE traffic, with the easier transfer at AKL vs SYD.

BNE still has an LAX option that would be quicker than AKL (and LAX has improved a lot and the return transit is a dodle).

We’re looking a QF3/4 NYC 2nd half of 2027. I’m monitoring the schedule to see what pans out. I wouldn’t be upset if we book via AKL but get moved to a PS flight!

 

[dajop]

BNE still has an LAX option that would be quicker than AKL (and LAX has improved a lot and the return transit is a dodle).

As does MEL, but obviously both involving 5-6 hrs on AA each way which could be an upgrade or downgrade vs QF depending on cabin and POV!

 

[dajop]

Not realistic and lhr-syd arrives 2nd day after departure not 1st day.

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It's what they will be doing (again come Nov) with QF9/10 and QF 93/94 which does MEL-PER-LHR-PER-MEL-LAX-MEL with 2 or 2:15 turn arounds in PER and MEL. But from a commercial attractiveness POV, the LHR it might need to be an early afternoon (say 2-3pm) departure that would get into SYD before curfew. Can't see a late evening departure due to both curfews.

 

[SeatBackForward]

et into SYD before curfew

There's always WSI as a backup now!

 

[Aeryn]

There's always WSI as a backup now!

Alternative for different flights not a back-up landing spot for existing flights except in case of genuine emmergency, which curfew is not. If you book a flight to SYD you obviously dont want to end up at WSI, and planes scheduled to land at SYD are also schedule to depart SYD, so plane would have to be repositioned which will become costly if a regular occurrence.

 

[Saab34]

That is going to be the case often as they are all essentially arriving very close together, it will take them 2 years to get through a D check program once that time comes.

Not sure where the A350 fleet will be going for heavy maintenance. I guess the longer range they can fly it anywhere non stop for a check.