Qantas Project Sunrise goes ahead, 12 new A350-1000s ordered

[AuSammy]

London is not everyone's destination. Only once in 30 years have I stayed in London on arrival.

Yep, in 10 arrivals into LHR, only once did I stay in London that night.

In 10 departures from LHR not a stay in London, all were from an incoming flight or ship (aka Transit)

 

[LondonAussie]

Yep, in 10 arrivals into LHR, only once did I stay in London that night.

In 10 departures from LHR not a stay in London, all were from an incoming flight or ship (aka Transit)

Why fly to/from London then?

 

[AuSammy]

Why fly to/from London then?

I thought it would be fairly obvious - a OW "hub". Most (not all) travel on OWA QFF points

The 2 x cruises returned to Southhampton and I needed to get home.
The only logical connection on OW to/from Dublin was via LHR.
The only offered OW connection from Frankfort to Dallas was via LHR
etc
etc

 

[dajop]

You know what? It’s 238 seats. It’s not for everyone. But it’s not meant to be. It’s a niche market.

5 am arrival. People in flights all around the world arrive into their destinations at OMG o’clock. Not for me ideally. But hey sometimes you take what you can get. For some the earlier the better, as they book the hotel from the night before, get to their room, nap a little , freshen up and go about their day.

 

[mbe1510]

London is not everyone's destination. Only once in 30 years have I stayed in London on arrival.

Anytime I have arrived on QF1 or BA16 I have not stayed in London an most likely off elsewhere. If I am planning to stay in London I will try to use EK code share to get an afternoon/early evening arrival to avoid arriving so early.

Feel sorry for all inbound pax into Australia that have no choice but an early arrival.

 

[Bundy Bear]

Agreed.
Currently QF has
0630 used by QF1
0505 used by QF9/219

Read a comment (I think on airliners) that at least one of the slots is a similar 0630 time..

So I could imagine Sunrise being a 1800 SYD departure arriving 0630 LHR.
Then you swap the PER and SYD aircraft, with QF10 retaining its 1150 departure to PER

Sunrise departs say 0930 LHR arriving SYD 1430 or so. (Assuming QF thinks a morning LHR departure will work)

This you can operate SYD and PER to LHR daily with 4 aircraft, admittedly with limited recovery options for delays.

I am not sure Qantas will ever find a use for that afternoon arrival into LHR, (1:30pm) it used to be used by I think QF29 out of Hong Kong.

I hope Qantas come up with a better presentation or options for economy meals on the super long flight and make sure they do lots of clean up runs, imagine all the cough and bit and pieces over the floor.

17 hours LHR-PER is bad enough 19-21 hours is going to suck and your body clock takes ages to recover, maybe Qantas could give everyone some melatonin to knock us all out for 20 hours.

Leaving UK around lunch time and arriving into the Eastern states in the evening via QF10 works well for me.
Qantas need another one of those departure time slots.

 

[SYD]

Anytime I have arrived on QF1 or BA16 I have not stayed in London an most likely off elsewhere. If I am planning to stay in London I will try to use EK code share to get an afternoon/early evening arrival to avoid arriving so early.

Feel sorry for all inbound pax into Australia that have no choice but an early arrival.

There are EK and QR options that skip the “sparrows” early arrival back into SYD also.

But back in the days with the QF/BA partnership, we all landed in LHR around 6am. Occasionally there might be a seasonal flight (eg QF31/32) that would land early arvo into LHR. The dual upside was a daytime flight eg SIN-SYD.

 

[justinbrett]

You know what? It’s 238 seats. It’s not for everyone. But it’s not meant to be. It’s a niche market.

5 am arrival. People in flights all around the world arrive into their destinations at OMG o’clock. Not for me ideally. But hey sometimes you take what you can get. For some the earlier the better, as they book the hotel from the night before, get to their room, nap a little , freshen up and go about their day.

QF16 is a 5am arrival. I usually hate early morning arrivals (though it seems most LHR flights I'm on arrive early, whether that's 5am or 7am not much difference to me).

But for QF16 coming home, I live on the Gold Coast, it means I can get an uber home without any worry about the traffic, and I can be in my bed before the sun rises, meaning I can have an extra sleep and wake up mid morning feeling fantastic.

I think there will be a lot of people going home to London or catching trains elsewhere in the UK to go home (or visit friends/family).

If you want a hotel, book it the night before.

 

[Quickstatus]

But hey sometimes you take what you can get.

Though I don't think Qantas wants to sell PS as a "not ideal but you take what you can get".

The landing slot constrains are of course what QF can get.