Qantas' New Flight Reward Finder Tool

[hipster]

The new tool has quietly launched: https://flightrewardfinder.qantas.com/

The tool is developed & run by Gyoza Flights (you can see the design similarities). Qantas approached all the major reward seat tool providers. Many said no because they didn't want to become devs for Qantas, quite understandably.

It's better than nothing but not great. There are seats on AF between SCL and CDG in Business in mid June but none of the partner stuff (AF) comes up. So you still need to know who the partners are and where they fly to.

 

[SYD]

Making it easier, doesn’t always make it better. Making it easier to get tickets to Taylor Swift (<- insert here another high demand artist, if this one doesn’t suit ), doesn't make it better, they will just be gobbled up sooner and by a different market player (eg. scalpers).
The bit I am interested in here in terms of making it easier, is the impact to Qantas’s one world partners and what consequentially they release to Qantas. The biggest feature of this new tool, is that it strips all its partners premium award availability and publishes it openly without having to login etc…… not much impact to Qantas as it has no premium award availability . So if I was a partner airline, I certainly wouldn’t my award availability stripped and published in this manner……. I would further restrict releasing these seats to Qantas and hold them for my own customers and other partners that played this game the same way…….. so yes, I have concerns that when made easier, there will be negative impacts.

Yeah, that’s a reasonable point that the tool operates outside one’s FF login and open to anyone. I suspect it’ll also be useful for non QF FF looking for seats - the EK availability (putting aside the current ME issues) is pretty powerful.

RE other partners, they already hold back seats for their own, so possibly not a huge thing.

I’m torn wishing it was linked to FF login and status because there’s a lot of QF premium seats that currently still aren’t obvious!

 

[aikman]

Making it easier, doesn’t always make it better. Making it easier to get tickets to Taylor Swift (<- insert here another high demand artist, if this one doesn’t suit ), doesn't make it better, they will just be gobbled up sooner and by a different market player (eg. scalpers).
The bit I am interested in here in terms of making it easier, is the impact to Qantas’s one world partners and what consequentially they release to Qantas. The biggest feature of this new tool, is that it strips all its partners premium award availability and publishes it openly without having to login etc…… not much impact to Qantas as it has no premium award availability . So if I was a partner airline, I certainly wouldn’t my award availability stripped and published in this manner……. I would further restrict releasing these seats to Qantas and hold them for my own customers and other partners that played this game the same way…….. so yes, I have concerns that when made easier, there will be negative impacts.

If this was a concern then partners would have restricted availability to American Airlines a long time ago.

 

[GrahamBRI]

If this was a concern then partners would have restricted availability to American Airlines a long time ago.

I don’t recall an option on AA to do a 12 month region to region view of all premium? This tool appears to me to be a lot more powerful a stripping a lot more data in this respect. Air Canada definitely got very active when other third party tools started stripping it for data…….

 

[Pigg]

Where is Manchester, Edinburgh, Delhi, Mumbai etc? If i go to change city i click the cross and the previous city just sits there. If i type in the new destination it just adds it to the previous search. Means i have to go back and start agin!

 

[Greg555]

If only there was an "exclude Jetstar" option

Yes, I would like to EXCLUDE Qantas and Emirates flights in my search....one for the excessive fees and the other for the soft product...

 

[PaulyB]

“No Classic Flight Rewards were found within the selected dates and/or filters. Try removing filters or expanding the date range.”

Hmmm, I chose any date and direct flights in Business/First to LHR. Zero availability for what I would’ve thought most would’ve wanted.

I'm trying to marry this up with the receipt of an email yesterday, offering the opportunity to upgrade from Economy (Gold) to Prem Econ for a flight QF11; Syd-LAX this Monday 13th April for 28,000 pts. Looking at this new QApp and also various other tools I see no seats available. although there is one at least for sale.

I am guessing the emails that go out are automatic and allowing for the possibility of last minute cancellations. But at this late stage there is nothing really available? Would that be a correct assumption?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I'm trying to marry this up with the receipt of an email yesterday, offering the opportunity to upgrade from Economy (Gold) to Prem Econ for a flight QF11; Syd-LAX this Monday 13th April for 28,000 pts. Looking at this new QApp and also various other tools I see no seats available. although there is one at least for sale.

I am guessing the emails that go out are automatic and allowing for the possibility of last minute cancellations. But at this late stage there is nothing really available? Would that be a correct assumption?

Cancellations, no shows, and other cabin upgrades.

Are business and first class seats available?

Current PEY pax may have requested upgrades to business, and pax in business might have requested upgrades to First. Creating rolling seat vacancies across cabins.

This could free up ‘x’ number of seats in PEY. Plus of course those who might cancel or no-show.

 

[PaulyB]

Thanks @MEL_Traveller . Pretty much as I guessed.

To answer: There are currently 5 x Business Flex seats available now, 1 Prem Econ Flex,
Curiously no First listed for sale but one (I am guessing) Classic Plus . No other reward seats at all.

Also I am logged in as a lowly Bronze. Would be daughter (Gold) see different?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Thanks @MEL_Traveller . Pretty much as I guessed.

To answer: There are currently 5 x Business Flex seats available now, 1 Prem Econ Flex,
Curiously no First listed for sale but one (I am guessing) Classic Plus . No other reward seats at all.

Also I am logged in as a lowly Bronze. Would be daughter (Gold) see different?

The upgrades in this case aren’t based on award availability.

ANY empty seat before boarding closes can (not must!) be available for upgrades. (Qantas may not make every empty seat available for upgrades, but they can if they choose.)

So it’s not just classic plus for example in F! it might be any unsold F seats, and same for business. So logging on via status will make no difference to those numbers.

 

[PaulyB]

The upgrades in this case aren’t based on award availability.

ANY empty seat before boarding closes can (not must!) be available for upgrades. (Qantas may not make every empty seat available for upgrades, but they can if they choose.)

So it’s not just classic plus for example in F! it might be any unsold F seats, and same for business. So logging on via status will make no difference to those numbers.

Useful. Thnx