Qantas movie vouchers

[WeeWillyWonka]

Sure, but it only works if I actually buy.

On the other hand, if it's something that I regularly buy, but this time I'm purchasing at a discounted price with a bonus (points), let them model all they want. It's not like I'm not receiving any benefit from the interaction.

No, it doesn't actually - that's the point of the analysis: prediction. But I digress, carry on with your movies

 

[Flying Fox]

FWIW, I just attempted to purchase 4x movie tickets but received a transaction error. Was asked to contact TLC to follow-up but no contact phone number was supplied.

To save others from chasing this phone number down in the future; call - 1800 053 676.

Hope that you don't need it.

 

[Supersonic Swinger]

On the other hand, if it's something that I regularly buy, but this time I'm purchasing at a discounted price with a bonus (points), let them model all they want. It's not like I'm not receiving any benefit from the interaction.

On top of knowing that you paid for it on a direct earn credit card which gives them an idea of how much you generally spend, that before the movie you ate at a specific restaurant, you drove there in a car you bought at Trivetts and parked at a Secure Parking car park, what insurance you got for the car through iSelect, and that you stopped in at Woolworths after the movie on the way home and then answered a few shopping/customer surveys on Red Planet before you went to bed, they will now have info on where and when you go to the movies and what movies you like.

Even if you only do a fraction of those things, aggregate that with information from 10 million members, and the data mining opportunities to sell that data and make you spend more are huge.

For me, that's worth more than a few QFF points which are increasingly difficult to redeem for any real value, but to each their own. It does make clear to me why the purchase of a few movie vouchers can earn you more than many economy flights on 'partner' airlines.

 

[samh004]

For me, that's worth more than a few QFF points which are increasingly difficult to redeem for any real value, but to each their own. It does make clear to me why the purchase of a few movie vouchers can earn you more than many economy flights on 'partner' airlines.

I'm happy for them to have that data... I'm poor so can't really spend any more anyway, so the offers to spend more will fall on deaf ears!

But the points will add up to some nice freebies

 

[Natalie_B]

On top of knowing that you paid for it on a direct earn credit card which gives them an idea of how much you generally spend, that before the movie you ate at a specific restaurant, you drove there in a car you bought at Trivetts and parked at a Secure Parking car park, what insurance you got for the car through iSelect, and that you stopped in at Woolworths after the movie on the way home and then answered a few shopping/customer surveys on Red Planet before you went to bed, they will now have info on where and when you go to the movies and what movies you like.

Even if you only do a fraction of those things, aggregate that with information from 10 million members, and the data mining opportunities to sell that data and make you spend more are huge.

I understand all of that. However half that information is available from just the use of my credit card.

At the end of the day, they can market to me all they want. They are marketing to a woman who is currently on Maternity leave without pay, so my spending only stretches as far as my allowance from Mr Natalie allows.

 

[Supersonic Swinger]

I'm happy for them to have that data... I'm poor so can't really spend any more anyway, so the offers to spend more will fall on deaf ears!

But the points will add up to some nice freebies

It's not just direct targeted offers to spend more. They can also use that data to give you higher Qantas fares when you are logged in because you are more engaged (there was an article on that recently in the Australian Financial Review), they can also sell that data to drive more variable pricing so that data buyers can charge higher prices for more engaged members.

Qantas makes money because it sells the points for more than it's worth to them internally, and the data users make money selling more to their customers compared to the price they pay QF for the data. You just need to make sure that the 'freebies' you get haven't actually cost you more than the higher prices you paid. And in determining what it 'cost' someone, I suspect there are PhDs in data analytics at QFF who have a much clearer picture of that than an individual member.

 

[Supersonic Swinger]

I understand all of that. However half that information is available from just the use of my credit card.

I *think* financial services legislation prohibits credit card companies from sharing the details of individual purchases of card holders with frequent flyer programs. They only see how much you spend each month when your points are direct credited or you transfer them across (although that second one is not really applicable to QF).

By offering all these other ways to earn points, the relationship is between the member and the program, not the member and the credit card company, so QFF gets access to all the individual transaction data.

Happy to be corrected on this, I think tripping_the_rift ​knows a thing or two about the inner workings of FF programs.

 

[Natalie_B]

I *think* financial services legislation prohibits credit card companies from sharing the details of individual purchases of card holders with frequent flyer programs. They only see how much you spend each month when your points are direct credited or you transfer them across (although that second one is not really applicable to QF).

By offering all these other ways to earn points, the relationship is between the member and the program, not the member and the credit card company, so QFF gets access to all the individual transaction data.

Happy to be corrected on this, I think tripping_the_rift ​knows a thing or two about the inner workings of FF programs.

My comment was purely in relation to your example about my trip to the movies in relation to parking/woolworths/going to the movies/eating beforehand.

 

[Mr_Orange]

No Gold Class or VMax tickets though, so I'm out.

 

[clazman]

Not interested in standard tickets, everyone does them cheap.

Premium tickets yes please

 

[j30max]

got email and purchased 4 tickets. Hoyts normally charge $20 p/adult, so $12 p/adult was good enough reason for me.

 

[Buzzard]

I don't go to the movies.
The movies come to me

 

[JohnK]

For me, that's worth more than a few QFF points which are increasingly difficult to redeem for any real value, but to each their own. It does make clear to me why the purchase of a few movie vouchers can earn you more than many economy flights on 'partner' airlines.

That is a good point. The focus is more and more away from the airline business to a business that sells points.

Not a good experience when I cannot redeem those points for something worthwhile and the taxes and surcharges are close to what one will pay for a revenue booking that earns SCs and QFF points.

 

[Flying Fox]

FYI, my 88 points for $44 spend has appeared in my QF account today.

 

[chrispy3276]

Just received an e-mail; double points (4 per $) until September 20.

 

[mrpasqualee]

got email and purchased 4 tickets. Hoyts normally charge $20 p/adult, so $12 p/adult was good enough reason for me.

Tried Qantas Movies recently too, $12 tickets sure beats $20 at Hoyts (even cheaper than $13 cheap Tuesday), plus bonus points posted within 24 hours

Additionally, after using my first 2 vouchers, Hoyts even gave me 2 more vouchers for $9 tickets!

 

[andye]

Gave 4 vouchers to MstrAndye1 who collected $36 from his friends. Effectively 8 points/$ for me and discounts for them

 

[SuperSaeen]

Used to buy Hoyt's vouchers from the website but it seems to have stopped working for me since late December. Is anyone else in Sydney getting the same error when ordering new hoyts vouchers " [h=4]We’re very sorry but movie vouchers are temporarily unavailable. Please contact TLC Marketing (our promotional partner)[/h]
Also please share if there are alternative sites that have cheap hoyts movie vouchers.

 

[OzEire]

A brief word of caution with these. Somehow I got into my head that the vouchers had 12 month expiry (like flight vouchers) but after about 3-4 months my 2 remaining vouchers had expired and value lost, most expensive piddling tally of QF pts I ever " bought". Keep track of your voucher expiry dates!

 

[chrispy3276]

Used to buy Hoyt's vouchers from the website but it seems to have stopped working for me since late December. Is anyone else in Sydney getting the same error when ordering new hoyts vouchers " [h=4]We’re very sorry but movie vouchers are temporarily unavailable. Please contact TLC Marketing (our promotional partner)[/h]
Also please share if there are alternative sites that have cheap hoyts movie vouchers.

Yes, am getting this issue also. Others (Event Cinemas) seem to be fine. If you're an Optus customer, you can get cheap tickets through their perks program