Qantas flight from Auckland to Sydney makes mayday call

[milehighclub]

Ohh look at the damage!!!!
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How dare the reverse thrust work. This is really sloppy journalism.

Same engine only a few seconds earlier.

 

[Saab34]

Is at least half dozen outlets pushing that narrative at the moment, bit sad really.

Media watch will be all over this one.

 

[Hvr]

Is that flood damage? From the jet stream?

 

[Quickstatus]

This is really sloppy journalism.

No, sadly, it's standard journalism.

 

[RichardMEL]

More importantly, does anyone have any pictures? I mean of the meal in J.

"Neil's special "One Engine, One Leaf" salad - specially curated for this flight by Rockpool's NZ catering department (the nearest dairy to AKL) served with no hot towels.

 

[RichardMEL]

Already had a colleague send me the thrust reverser open pic as though damn QF and spewing AJ malarkey smh.

I just said yeah the thrust reverser. that shut him up.

 

[antycbr]

Already had a colleague send me the thrust reverser open pic as though damn QF and spewing AJ malarkey smh.

I just said yeah the thrust reverser. that shut him up.

Obviously not too concerned about the engine if able to use reverse thrust. 34L is 3.9km long and in a 737 you’d have no problem stopping…

 

[Brissy1]

... slowed to ~380kts ground speed.

To resurrect an old joke, so if the last engine goes out they'll be up there forever.

And 7 news reported that the passengers were quote..."kept in the dark" . Emergency power only?

 

[AviatorInsight]

Obviously not too concerned about the engine if able to use reverse thrust. 34L is 3.9km long and in a 737 you’d have no problem stopping…

If the engine is in fact shut down, we still pull both reversers on landing. They’re hydraulically operated. The sleeve will still open and you’ll get idle reverse as opposed to full reverse on the other engine.

Good job from the crew in any case.

 

[Berlin]

It is a backronyn.

(It derives from the French Panne (breakdown))

Well- I learnt something here. We have the same word in German (same spelling even!) and it never occurred to me that this might be where the PAN PAN comes from. Mind boggling realisation!

And more on the topic itself: I’m getting old so I barely remember, what did John Travolta say back then in that safety video “That’s why I’d nowhere rather be than in the hands of a Qantas pilot” or something along those lines. Seems to still hold up as I couldn’t agree more!

 

[AviatorInsight]

For those interested, this is from the Jeppesen manual for aircraft in Oceanic airspace:

g. if voice communication is used, use the radiotelephony distress signal (MAYDAY) or urgency signal (PAN PAN) preferably spoken three times, as appropriate; and

h. establish communications with and alert nearby aircraft by broadcasting at suitable intervals on the frequency in use and on 121.5 MHz (or, as a backup, on the inter-pilot air-to-air frequency 123.45 MHz): 1. aircraft identification; 2. flight level; 3. position including the ATS route designa-tor or the track code, as appropriate; 4. the nature of the distress condition; and 5. intentions.

Driftdowns are not a fast manoeuvre. On the flight management computer we have the maximum altitude for a single engine at any given point during the flight. FL200 or 20,000ft is a very comfortable altitude with adequate performance on the other engine to maintain cruise flight.

 

[Quickstatus]

hands of a Qantas pilot

He managed to get himself a great deal. QF serviced his exQF 707 while he saunters around in a Pilot's uniform with the QF big boys. He even got a custom rego N707JT

After QF said the deal is off he off loaded it to the Wollongong museum but got or is trying to get them to do the maintenance necessary to bring it to australia.

A quid pro quo for saying Qantas is the best is not that hard to do...

I do wonder though whether he is, on some level, talking about himself when he mentions "in the hands of a Qantas pilot". Afterall he flies the 707 which has retro Qantas livery

For those interested

Who would pick up the squawk 7700 when out of VHF range? And is 7700 mayday or pan?

 

[AviatorInsight]

Who would pick up the squawk 7700 when out of VHF range? And is 7700 mayday or pan?

No one would until within radar range. 7700 is strictly for Mayday. We leave the code as is for a Pan.

 

[Captain Halliday]

No one would until within radar range. 7700 is strictly for Mayday. We leave the code as is for a Pan.

It that company policy or standard across AU operators?

 

[exLXCXFF]

with no hot towels

fascinating how the hot towel saga sneaked in here

 

[AviatorInsight]

It that company policy or standard across AU operators?

AU as far as I’m aware. 7700 is reserved for emergency. Now what the pilot deems to be an emergency is up to them. The manual also states that:

The pilot of an aircraft in a state of emergency shall set the transponder to Mode A Code 7700 unless ATC has previously directed the pilot to operate the transponder on a specified code. In the latter case, the pilot shall continue to use the specified code unless otherwise advised by ATC. However, a pilot may select Mode A Code 7700 whenever there is a specific reason to believe that this would be the best course of action.

What that also means is if the crew are unable to get a clearance from ATC whilst in oceanic (VHF/HF) or domestic airspace, select 7700.

 

[RichardMEL]

Tonight's radio news report started with "Passengers are praising the pilots...." and comments how the Captain shook each pax's hands as they disembarked. Sounds like class there on top of a good crew performance - and the sort of thing that hopefully gets QF more good PR than bad in this charged environment.

 

[justinbrett]

It that company policy or standard across AU operators?

I believe it's ICAO, certainly not limited to Australia. Nothing to do with individual airlines, it's ATC that promulgates this (the people who will receive the codes).

7500 is Hijack.
7600 is comms failure
7700 is general emergency

When I was taught these we were told to keep them on the downlow (especially 7500) but it's plastered all over the internet now.

 

[dylarr]

Ohh look at the damage!!!!
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Did... did they really just mistake the reversers for "engine damage"?

I mean I'm not at all surprised, not one bit, but holy moly that's a doozie.

 

[dylarr]

Did... did they really just mistake the reversers for "engine damage"?

I mean I'm not at all surprised, not one bit, but holy moly that's a doozie.

Also spotted this now deleted tweet from the same news outlet in my Twitter feed as well. I know they like to be click-baity but this is just pathetic lazy journalism.