Qantas Delays/Cancellations

[Melburnian1]

QF2039, the Sunday 10 November scheduled 1320 hours DBO across to SYD has Q300 VH-TQH and is arriving at 1503, 38 late.

QF27 (1245 hours lunchtime SYD's long trek across to SCL) pushed back 27 late at 1312 with estimated same day arrival becoming 1140, half an hour tardy. This should not delay QF28 returning as it is not timetabled to depart until 1335 hours.

B744 VH-OEJ, the overnight delayed QF25 from SYD to HND departed at 1432 hours on Sunday and was airborne at 1445. One non-QF website suggests it will be at its HND gate at 2131 hours (991 minutes late), somewhat earlier than the amended schedule of 2205. However IIRC QF can only use its HND slot between 2200 and 0600 hours.

UPDATE: QF's site has altered to show an at gate arrival for 'the 25' of 2210 hours.

 

[Melburnian1]

The delayed QF63 (B744 VH-OEF) on Sunday 10 November 2019 departed SYD at 1740, just five minutes beyond what QF had forecast, and 365 minutes behind schedule. It efficiently took off at 1753. Same day JNB arrival is suggested as 2203 hours, 328 minutes tardy.

QF64 is predicted to push back in far away JNB at 0015 on Monday morning (11 November), 325 late with SYD arrival tomorrow evening at 2050 hours, 315 late.

At this stage there are no delays expected for the QFi B744 scheduled flights tomorrow ex SYD, namely QF63 to JNB, QF73 to SFO and QF25 to HND.

QF3 departed SYD 61 minutes behind schedule at 2021 this evening, with same day HNL arrival predicted as 0849, 34 late. Pushback was eight minutes later than on Saturday 9, but predicted arrival is identical. Sunday's is the third consecutive SYD - HNL round trip for A333 VH-QPD that earlier this evening arrived in SYD at 1810 (35 late) as QF4.

 

[Melburnian1]

QF2 on Saturday night 9 November 2019 departed LHR at 2306 hours, 151 minutes late, so the aircraft's turnaround took 157 minutes.

The SIN intermediate stop on Sunday 10 is estimated as 1951 to 2100 (possibly slightly optimistic) with SYD Monday 11 arrival at 0800 hours, 110 late and in plenty of time, hopefully, to form a punctual QF11 at 1110 hours from SYD across to LAX.

QF now estimates that the delayed QF2 will be in SIN on Sunday 10 from 2000 to 2125 hours (the latter being 130 minutes late) with Monday 11 SYD at gate arrival 0825 hours, 135 minutes behind the timetable. The aircraft still looks to be forming the 1110 hours SYD - LAX that ought depart punctually unless there's more than another 50 minutes' delay to 'the 2.'

Irrespective, this heavy utilisation (due to the VH-OQB 'dooring' incident, see above) gives little or no time for maintenance in between flights.

 

[Quickstatus]

Other major airlines seem to think so.

I've never had any major airline cancel a flight on me at their home hub and tell me to come back another day (unless major weather issue) - happened to me with QF at least three times in the last 24 months! CX@HKG swap out aircraft all the time when sometime goes wrong.

CX and SIN only has one “home”base.
QF has two -SYD and MEL and to a lesser extent BNE. Unlike CX, QF does not operate a classic Spoke and hub operation, rather it’s more like a point to point from a hub - is the hub is at the end not in the middle.

 

[Melburnian1]

CX and SIN only has one “home”base.

QF has two -SYD and MEL and to a lesser extent BNE. Unlike CX, QF does not operate a classic Spoke and hub operation, rather it’s more like a point to point from a hub - is the hub is at the end not in the middle.

It's arguable with Mrmaxwell referring to QFi not QFd, the former has its major base in SYD, far larger than BNE or MEL. I know what you're saying but because SYD is so much larger, BNE and MEL for international flights are mere branch offices. A look at the map to see to where QFi only flies from Sydney validates this in my view. There are no QF 'own metal' flights to BKK, CGK, HND, HNL, JNB, KIX, MNL, PEK, PVG or SCL from anywhere but SYD.

 

[zenyattamondatta]

It's arguable with Mrmaxwell referring to QFi not QFd, the former has its major base in SYD, far larger than BNE or MEL. I know what you're saying but because SYD is so much larger, BNE and MEL for international flights are mere branch offices. A look at the map to see to where QFi only flies from Sydney validates this in my view. There are no QF 'own metal' flights to BKK, CGK, HND, HNL, JNB, KIX, MNL, PEK, PVG or SCL from anywhere but SYD.

Really doesn’t matter anyway because they can’t just afford to have a “spare” sitting around *anywhere*.

 

[Melburnian1]

Really doesn’t matter anyway because they can’t just afford to have a “spare” sitting around *anywhere*.

Other airlines can "afford" to do this, as can many transport operators in other subsectors. QF is a corporation with multibillions in revenue.

 

[Melburnian1]

The delayed QF2 (A388 VH-OQE) had a further hiccup in SIN, not departing on Sunday 10 until 2232 hours, 197 minutes late, so on Monday 11, SYD arrival should be 0905, 175 minutes behind schedule, but in sufficient time - hopefully - to form a punctual QF11, the 1110 hours SYD to LAX.

 

[Himeno]

Other airlines can "afford" to do this, as can many transport operators in other subsectors. QF is a corporation with multibillions in revenue.

Most airlines don't have "spare" aircraft sitting around waiting for a problem. When an issue comes up with an aircraft that they can't resolve in time for its planned flight, they'll grab another aircraft planned for a flight 8 or 10 hours from now and use that instead and hope they can fix the problem aircraft in time for the flight they just took the equipment from.

 

[Melburnian1]

On Sunday 10 November 2019, QF11 departed LAX at 0933, 73 late (due to late arrival of QF15 from BNE) with JFK arrival at 1736 hours, 66 minutes behind the schedule. QF12 then pushed back in JFK at 1924 (84 down) with LAX arrival estimated as 2205, an even hour late, meaning the onwards QF12 to SYD (different aircraft - A388 not B789) should depart the Movie City half an hour behind at 2300.

The overnight delayed Saturday night QF25 arrived HND at 2159 hours on Sunday 10, allowing QF26 to push back at 2343 hours. Monday 11 SYD arrival was 1048, 73 behind but earlier than QF's original (amended) estimate of 1135 hours.

On Monday, the identically 17 hour delayed QF25 (i.e. the scheduled Sunday 10 departure) pushed back in SYD at 1442 hours so HND at gate arrival should be 2148 hours, 1008 minutes tardy. This should see QF26 tonight back down to SYD departing at 2355 hours or a little earlier.

Due to QF63 being badly late, the Sunday 10 1850 hours JNB to SYD QF64 left at 0018 on Monday 11 with SYD arrival estimated as 2014 hours, 279 late. As noted a few posts back, anyone connecting to ADL, BNE, MEL, OOL and a host of other cities/towns including Tasmania will have to spend overnight in Sydney.

In a further A388 delay, Monday 11's QF7 (the long flight SYD - DFW) should depart 110 minutes behind schedule at 1630 with resultant Texas arrival at 1450 mid afternoon same day, 115 late. This ought not delay the return QF8 on Monday as the turnaround time allowed is generous.

Earlier, QF97 (mostly punctual) departed BNE 57 late at 1032 hours with HKG arrival predicted as 50 late at 1720 hours.

 

[Melburnian1]

Probably because B744 VH-OEH appears to be still out of service undergoing repairs, QF73, the 1755 hours Tuesday 12 November 2019 SYD - SFO has been cancelled, while the same night's QF74 in the reverse direction is also likely to be given the flick.

I had thought QF would have sufficient B744s (five) for its Tuesday flights but that must be incorrect.

 

[Melburnian1]

QF708, the 1655 hours ADL across to CBR on Monday 11 November took off at 1738 with B738 VH-VYL. Arrival should be at 1932, 32 late.

 

[Silvia]

Following today, QF1750 BNE-CNS (B717 VH-YQY) has a revised arrival at 19 34, 54 min tardy.

 

[dkc192]

Seems like QF7 on Monday the 11th has been delayed overnight by almost 24h, with an ETD of 12 noon on Tuesday the 12th. The return QF8 has been correspondingly delayed 24h. This turn was planned to be operated by -OQC, which had arrived on time from LAX as QF12 on the morning of the 11th. Now EF shows the seatmap for -OQK, which is due to arrive from LAX as QF12 on the morning of the 12th. Wonder what happened to -OQC?

 

[Melburnian1]

Seems like QF7 on Monday the 11th has been delayed overnight by almost 24h, with an ETD of 12 noon on Tuesday the 12th. The return QF8 has been correspondingly delayed 24h. This turn was planned to be operated by -OQC, which had arrived on time from LAX as QF12 on the morning of the 11th. Now EF shows the seatmap for -OQK, which is due to arrive from LAX as QF12 on the morning of the 12th. Wonder what happened to -OQC?

dkc192, many thanks for excellent update (although far from ideal if you're travelling). I'd recorded what QFi said this afternoon was amended departure of 1630 hours - 110 minutes late - for QF7, so one presumes something major has delayed it overnight. On such a long sector, it's easier for the flight crew to 'run out of hours' depending on when they signed on. This c.21 hour delay won't help the A388 long distance schedules later in the week.

VH-OQC remains in SYD it seems.

So today: QF1 cancelled to SIN/LHR, QF25 from Sunday 10 is c.17 hours late on the popular HND route and QF7 will be c.21 hours late.

The 1945 hours early evening DFW to SYD on Monday 11 is delayed 24 hours. At least with this return flight, passengers have plenty of notice and QFi a goodly amount of time to rebook patrons - see a few posts back for what the very helpful milehighclub had to say re this - and organise hotels for out-of-towners. Hoteliers must love disruptions like this, although most major airlines have agreements for room rates below what we'd pay as walk-in individuals. Nonetheless, rational hoteliers don't sign unless profitable, and filling otherwise vacant rooms means ancillary F & B revenue.

AFFer Mrmaxwell was fortunate to travel on Sunday 10 ex SYD given the disruption of late to 'the 7.'

 

[dkc192]

I'm not traveling this week...but due to fly on QF7 next week, so hopefully things will have settled down a bit by then!

 

[Melburnian1]

I'm not traveling this week...but due to fly on QF7 next week, so hopefully things will have settled down a bit by then!

milehighclub advised that the two A388 aircraft out for planned refurbishments are not due back until (respectively) 7 and 10 December.

"It depends" as to whether the 'dooring SYD hangar" incident aircraft (A388 VH-OQB) has been repaired, but the 'SMH' recent media article suggested 'two weeks' for the work to be completed.

If cancellations are still occurring, it may be that QF1 gets the flick on the day you travel and QF7 operates. One doubts whether QFi operations would yet know this.

On Sunday 10 November, because QF12 from JFK arrived at its lAX gate at 2207 hours, 62 minutes late, the connecting QF12 for SYD (A388 VH-OQK) departed LAX at 2324 hours, 54 late with SYD Tuesday 12 arrival suggested as 0925, 50 minutes behind schedule. This gives the aircraft time to form the 1200 'high noon' 21.5 hour delayed QF7 to DFW as noted above.

The Tuesday arrival of QF16 ex LAX (B789) should occur at 0750 hours, 35 late, giving time to form a punctual QF15.

Monday 11 has also seen QF45, the 1745 hours MEL - DPS push back 55 late, so anticipated arrival is 2127 hours, 57 minutes behind the timetable.

UPDATE: QF12 from LAX to SYD is later than predicted last night, with estimated arrival on Tuesday 12 becoming 0951, 76 minutes behind the timetable. It is still to form the 21.5 hours late overnight delayed QF7 to DFW.

 

[Melburnian1]

On Tuesday 12 November, QF is indicating that QF94 from LAX to MEL (A388 VH-OQD) that took off at 2310 hours - punctually - on Sunday night 10 November will be diverted to SYD where the stop is from 0938 to 1040, meaning eventual MEL arrival at 1225 hours, 145 minutes late. Happy to be corrected but this may be a famous AFFer Quickstatus 'fill up and go' stop due to adverse winds.

As a result the 1210 hours lunchtime MEL - SIN QF35 is expected to push back at 1430 this afternoon, 140 late with SIN arrival at 1930 tonight, 145 late. The 1940 hours QF36 from the Lion City down to MEL overnight is forecast to push back at 2125, 105 late with Wednesday 13 November arrival a suggested 0750, 110 minutes behind schedule. If this flight loses much further time and forms the MEL - LAX QF93 as is mostly QF's practice, the latter may be delayed on Wednesday morning as it is timetabled to depart at 1040 hours.

 

[lynnk]

milehighclub advised that the two A388 aircraft out for planned refurbishments are not due back until (respectively) 7 and 10 December.

"It depends" as to whether the 'dooring SYD hangar" incident aircraft (A388 VH-OQB) has been repaired, but the 'SMH' recent media article suggested 'two weeks' for the work to be completed.

If cancellations are still occurring, it may be that QF1 gets the flick on the day you travel and QF7 operates. One doubts whether QFi operations would yet know this.

On Sunday 10 November, because QF12 from JFK arrived at its lAX gate at 2207 hours, 62 minutes late, the connecting QF12 for SYD (A388 VH-OQK) departed LAX at 2324 hours, 54 late with SYD Tuesday 12 arrival suggested as 0925, 50 minutes behind schedule. This gives the aircraft time to form the 1200 'high noon' 21.5 hour delayed QF7 to DFW as noted above.

The Tuesday arrival of QF16 ex LAX (B789) should occur at 0750 hours, 35 late, giving time to form a punctual QF15.

Monday 11 has also seen QF45, the 1745 hours MEL - DPS push back 55 late, so anticipated arrival is 2127 hours, 57 minutes behind the timetable.

UPDATE: QF12 from LAX to SYD is later than predicted last night, with estimated arrival on Tuesday 12 becoming 0951, 76 minutes behind the timetable. It is still to form the 21.5 hours late overnight delayed QF7 to DFW.

I'm an absolute newbie, but where do you find the info as to which aircraft will operate which future route? Thank you!

 

[sevenfourtyseven]

I would suggest this is one reason, plus the A380 door incident why QF35 has been downgauged to an A332 on Wednesday.

Glad we didn't fly out on QF35 today. Our Jetstar connections would have been totally missed.