Qantas Club Dress Standards...Stubbies, singlet and thongs....What the???

[footy99]

Any chance of an odour from my feet and I'll encase them. (No I normally don't have smelly feet ) I think this possibility is where the dislike for thongs/flip flops comes from. Generally encased feet have a lesser chance of projecting their smells on the rest of us.

Yeah. As has been noted over and over it's really about behaviour and hygiene, which unfortunately some have associated with dress. If you're clean, wearing something plane-appropriate and not disturbing people, you're all good.

 

[Quickstatus]

"Its about being respectful to Qantas".....

Hmm maybe she's angling for a CL card......

Keep wearing your pearls - you may just get in.....


Dress standards to be enforced at Qantas business lounges

 

[11sjw]

In the end they're QF's lounges so they set the rules. Argue all you want but it could be a case of "Tell your story walking."

 

[Quickstatus]

It has not got to this stage yet



US Airways lets man fly wearing women's underwear

 

[Flying mermaid]

"Its about being respectful to Qantas".....

Hmm maybe she's angling for a CL card......

Keep wearing your pearls - you may just get in.....


Dress standards to be enforced at Qantas business lounges

Etiquette expert Jodie Bache-McLean from June Dally-Watkins Education and Training applauded the decision to uphold the standards set out in the terms and conditions.
“It’s about being respectful to Qantas,” she said.
“If their own staff don’t meet a certain standard of dress they are sent home.”
Ms Bache-McLean said she would not mind seeing the same standards applied at the aircraft door, particularly in relation to rubber things.
“A closed in shoe is more appropriate when travelling because it has more of a workplace, health and safety conformity about it,” she said.
“I don’t know if they’ll be able to manage that for everyone, but certainly in first and business class would be good.”

What a wanker - if Qantas ever try and make me wear closed shoes in my personally paid for J and F I will take my business elsewhere (can guarantee they won't!). For the record I am not a slob, I can wear nice shoes when going out and team them with my pearls or diamonds (some of which are even pink), but I just don't think there is anything special about J or F which requires me to dress up! I just want to get where I am going in comfort with a bit of cosseting and I am prepared to pay for it, but it is still just a pretty tacky airplane. (Sometimes even needs a good clean, particularly J domestically...)

 

[MEL_Traveller]

In the end they're QF's lounges so they set the rules. Argue all you want but it could be a case of "Tell your story walking."

they aren't QF's lounges in that sense... they are there to serve the passenger and generate income for shareholders.

reject a first class passenger in shorts and I'm sure singapore airlines would be extraordinarily happy.

 

[Quickstatus]

What a wanker - if Qantas ever try and make me wear closed shoes in my personally paid for J and F I will take my business elsewhere (can guarantee they won't!). For the record I am not a slob, I can wear nice shoes when going out and team them with my pearls or diamonds (some of which are even pink), but I just don't think there is anything special about J or F which requires me to dress up! I just want to get where I am going in comfort with a bit of cosseting and I am prepared to pay for it, but it is still just a pretty tacky airplane. (Sometimes even needs a good clean, particularly J domestically...)

Mermaids dont need shoes. You should get an exemption

Pink diamonds - im not sure they go with the coral green mermaid colour

 

[drron]

I agree people have their own standards, and that's fine in the privacy of our own domain. We can choose who we let into your own house, or who we wish to associate with when we go out to dinner or to the movies.

But in a public space are not our standards ours alone? Unless the standards (and/or laws) are in place to protect ourselves or others (or make co-existence just that little more pleasant... like not yelling into your mobile), does it matter what people do or what they wear?

If we are going to complain about dress standards... what about the 'well dressed' person who proceeds to cut their bread roll? Or cut salad leaves?

This is all good when you apply it to yourself. I.e. "I believe wearing shorts in a lounge is disrespectful and offensive, therefore I won't wear them."

It's not all good when you just expect everyone else to conform to your standards. I.e. "I believe wearing shorts in a lounge is disrespectful and offensive, therefore that person wearing shorts is disrespectful and offensive and should be banned for not conforming to my standards."

Boy lighten up.Nowhere did I criticise others clothes choices.But you seem to want to criticise mine.
I am more comfortable in smart casual gear.Leave me alone and you are fine.

 

[footy99]

Boy lighten up.Nowhere did I criticise others clothes choices.But you seem to want to criticise mine.
I am more comfortable in smart casual gear.Leave me alone and you are fine.

Yep that's exactly the point. It makes no difference at all what anyone wears (provided you can wear it on the plane). Some choose to wear a 4-piece suit, others shorts and thongs, and everything in between. In either case, provided you are clean and well behaved, it's all good.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Boy lighten up.Nowhere did I criticise others clothes choices.But you seem to want to criticise mine.
I am more comfortable in smart casual gear.Leave me alone and you are fine.

apologies. It wasn't personal. Just my comments which I attached to your quote about the development of standards in general.

 

[basso]

What a wanker - if Qantas ever try and make me wear closed shoes in my personally paid for J and F I will take my business elsewhere (can guarantee they won't!). For the record I am not a slob, I can wear nice shoes when going out and team them with my pearls or diamonds (some of which are even pink), but I just don't think there is anything special about J or F which requires me to dress up! I just want to get where I am going in comfort with a bit of cosseting and I am prepared to pay for it, but it is still just a pretty tacky airplane. (Sometimes even needs a good clean, particularly J domestically...)

While the rules only apply to the Domestic lounges, so the arguments about F lounges are irrelevent, Qantas aren't asking you to dress up. They are just suggesting not to dress down too far. So much ado about next to nothing in this thread.

 

[basso]

It's not all good when you just expect everyone else to conform to your standards. I.e. "I believe wearing shorts in a lounge is disrespectful and offensive, therefore that person wearing shorts is disrespectful and offensive and should be banned for not conforming to my standards."

Nowhere has it been suggested by Qantas that shorts are not appropriate. It's onlt the people pulling the 'how dare they apply a rule to me' crowd that are suggesting it.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

While the rules only apply to the Domestic lounges, so the arguments about F lounges are irrelevent, Qantas aren't asking you to dress up. They are just suggesting not to dress down too far. So much ado about next to nothing in this thread.

Well - here's another take on the same article, this time from our friends in the NT: Qantas’ crack down on bogan outfits with strict new dress standards for business lounges will not apply in Darwin | NT News

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lou

lots of free press around this issue

and oh, by the way, there's a bonus 40,000 points for joining QF club.

no connection to see here... move along!

 

[Flying mermaid]

While the rules only apply to the Domestic lounges, so the arguments about F lounges are irrelevent, Qantas aren't asking you to dress up. They are just suggesting not to dress down too far. So much ado about next to nothing in this thread.

Isn't that what the threads are often about - I was also commenting on the article desiring closed shoes on Qantas planes in F and J - a natural segue...

 

[TomVexille]

While every thing you say is common sense, it is way off topic IMHO. The issue is "dress standards", and I still take issue with people who are in filthy clothes, or where their clothes expose filthy smelly parts of their person (eg feet). Has happened twice in the lounge in the last 10 years, so not a big problem and you can move away unlike when on a crowded flight. I don't like it any more than in winter when a smoker in their coat of 20 years (that attests so well to their addiction) sits next to you on the train! I cope, but I don't like it.

Of the two times I have preferred to move away from someone dirty and smelly in the lounge, they had hi-viz on once. Not a great statistical sample to draw solid conclusions, so I haven't.

Not off topic at all IMO, she makes the point that "dress standards" hardly mean squats. And that those who are "dressed properly" are more likely to be a disruption to the calm nature of the lounge.

 

[TomVexille]

At last I have my chance to make a pedantic comment. Perhaps I've been reading Zoltan Kovacs' column a little too often.

It's "It's" not Its.
It's "let's" not "lets"
It's "we" not "us"
and it's "Ys" not "Y's"

There, now that's off my chest I feel better.

Grammar thread is that way ---->

 

[get me outta here]

Is it a Seinfeld thread?

..... So much ado about next to nothing in this thread.

 

[JamesMiddleton]

Well - here's another take on the same article, this time from our friends in the NT

Geez, if those bogans turn up dressed like at any of the lounges where Qantas will be enforcing their 'smart casual' dress code I bloody well hope they are turned away.

Which raises an interesting point, so much of this is at the discretion of the lounge's duty manager because Qantas has not outlined what it considers 'smart casual' to be, only given some examples of what may not be allowed anbd even then that's a 'may not', not a 'definitely won't be allowed'.

So what happens for example if those two bogans in the NT article above rocked up into the Sydney J lounge and were admitted, but you felt they were bringing own the tone of the place by not wearing appropriate 'smart casual' dress? Would you go to the front desk and complain, and if so would you expect anything to be done about it?

 

[JamesMiddleton]

April 1st is gonna be 'D-Day' for all this. Be interesting to see how many lounge managers do turn away pax who are not appropriately dressed. Which of them will be willing to be the first, and probably end up with some media or at least social media attention because the bogan they turn away jumps onto Twitter to have a lash at Qantas, or hits Qantas' Facebook page or posts to their own page?

I predict there will be quite a few DYKWIA types blasting away on social media after being turned away but also blasting away at the lounge angels, things could get a bit ugly!