Qantas chief says merger inevitable

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Qantas will inevitably merge with another major carrier and it will be sooner rather than later, the airline's outgoing chief executive Geoff Dixon says.


Mr Dixon said he believed the resulting airline would not be much different to what exists now.


Qantas would always be Australian and would always have the great majority of its jobs and its business in Australia, he said.


"But there has to be a level of maturity when it comes to a discussion on this," he told ABC Radio.


"The airline industry is very fragmented. It is hugely capital intensive. Other airlines are starting to merge and we must be part of that.


"It doesn't mean the kangaroo will go. It doesn't mean the brand will go. It will be probably very similar to what it is now. People have got to understand that this will happen."


Singapore Airlines has been named in the past as a potential suitor but Mr Dixon said he wasn't looking to anyone in particular.


Companies tended to sit down and see a community of interest, he said.


"I am not saying there is anybody out there at the moment. All I am saying is that many airlines are now merging in situations where they probably would not have considered it three or four or even five years ago," he said.


Mr Dixon said Qantas was the world's 10th largest airline which was amazing considering Australia was the world's 54th biggest country.


"But we still are not big enough in five to 10 years to do it on our own. I believe it will be sooner rather than later," he said.


Mr Dixon, who steps down in November and hands over to current Jetstar boss Alan Joyce, said Qantas was doing exceedingly well internationally, reporting a 44 per cent profit increase for the 2007/08 year.


He said Qantas had orders worth $36 billion for new fuel efficient aircraft which will enter service over the next 10 years.


"When we get those in I am quite sure we will be more efficient. We want to get a return for our investment and we will cut fares as much as we can," he said.
 
I don't think they could merge with SQ given their chequered past. Which airline would be the most suitable merger for QF to maintain majority ownership and at the same time be wortwhile financially?
 
I don't think they could merge with SQ given their chequered past. Which airline would be the most suitable merger for QF to maintain majority ownership and at the same time be wortwhile financially?

Air Pacific / Air Vanuatu type operations? (Subject to their Governments agreeing of course!)

Cathay would be very interesting.
 
I can't see a lot of airlines QF could merge with, NZ of course comes to mind but maybe if you think a little outside the square of South African (yes i know its *A) or something like that, otherwise it would be smaller operations.

CX would be a really interesting merger... but i some how doubt it.

The only way i see large airlines merging due to the fact they will believe they can stand on there own 2 feet is if one of them is in serious financial trouble but still a good airline.

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I can't see a lot of airlines QF could merge with, NZ of course comes to mind but maybe if you think a little outside the square of South African (yes i know its *A) or something like that, otherwise it would be smaller operations.

CX would be a really interesting merger... but i some how doubt it.

The only way i see large airlines merging due to the fact they will believe they can stand on there own 2 feet is if one of them is in serious financial trouble but still a good airline.

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Funny, I see SAA more suited for a BA take over than a QF take over.
 
Funny, I see SAA more suited for a BA take over than a QF take over.

I would agree with that of course... but i was just trying to think who would be even remotly a logical tie up for QF and almost nothing except NZ comes to mind since there is really not much down here in this part of the world, the rest are smaller Asian airlines.

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I would think a mergeover is more likely than a merger - I don't think it would be acceptable to the Oz populace to lose the QF brand - Qantas Pacific might work...
 
I would think a mergeover is more likely than a merger - I don't think it would be acceptable to the Oz populace to lose the QF brand - Qantas Pacific might work...

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I'd be happy for the roo to go. Have Singapore Air fly domestic here and be moved from WP to what ever the highest A$$ kissing level they have :D:D:D
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Sadly being top tier in SQ's program is I believe not that great if not flying J/F
 
Top tier in *A does not get F lounge access I believe.

The top tier in SQ does get F lounge access .... but it is mightily difficult to achieve ($250K SGD spend in J/F within 5 years, to become a Solitaire PPS member.

The difference between * and OW is that there is no alliance wide top-tier. The top tier in * alliance is carrier specific, such as SQ PPS & PPS Solitaire, NZ Gold Elite, etc, (so OW ruby= *silver, OW sapphire =*gold, no equivalent of OW emerald).

As I'm a QF WP & SQ PPS member (*G) this is how they compare:

OWE (as QF WP)
FCL when flying OW (+dom J in Oz)
Intl QF Bus Lge access [in ports that have them] when not flying OW/ (or QP domestically)
100% tier bonus on QF, AA, BA flights
Priority baggage on QF (and some other OW carriers at their discretion)
Use of FC checkin
Priority boarding/waitlist/phone no etc
Ability to allocate exit row/specific seats on QF intl
- when flying QF intl in Y usual to get welcome & pre-dep drink

* Gold (SQ PPS)
J lounge access when flying * (except in SIN - if not flying SQ - only use designated * gold lounge)
No lounge access if not flying * alliance
25% tier bonus on SQ flights (not too difft to QF 100% if burn rates are taken into account)
Priority baggage on star alliance carriers
Use of J class checkin
Priority boarding/waitlist/phone no etc
Ability to only requests exit row/specific seating when in Y (but high prob of success)
- when flying SQ intl in Y, usually get meal before other pax regardless of where sitting (not sure if this is for *golds, probably only PPS)
 
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Thanks dajop for that. That really does break it down. On the surface OW looks like a better system for premium users. But I guess you have to take into account the number of members etc. I know *A has a lot more.


when flying SQ intl in Y, usually get meal before other pax regardless of where sitting (not sure if this is for *golds, probably only PPS)

CX also do this for me in Y (I assume because of my OWE) I guess it is an Asian carrier thing.
 
Thanks dajop for that. That really does break it down. On the surface OW looks like a better system for premium users.

One thing that has really made a difference (at least from a SYD/MEL perspective!) is the improvement of first class facilities (lounge and check in ) that QF have implemented , and therefore benefits for Platinums. At airports where FCL's are top notch (eg SYD, MEL, HKG, etc) there is a big difference. At airports with lesser FCL's (eg AKL/BNE?) - not so much.
 
I reckon Joyce should go Cathay & Korean. The asian market has the best potential I would think and you possibly want a carrier who has good access to the US, which Korean does. I think Joyce made a smart move taking Jetstar into Vietnam - he's on the right track. Let's see where he goes, maybe a three way between Qantas(SEAsia/pacific region), Cathay(Asia/Europe) & Korean(Asia/US) - world domination here we come. The cost of this advice, is a seat on the board of Qanthean Airlines, the world's largest airline, with the biggest planes. :D
 
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