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PR J BNE/MEL/PER/SYD return (min.2) A$1545 - 1580

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Full service carrier PR (lie flat 1-2-1 ex SYD/MEL on the A333, lie flat 2-2 on the new A321neo ex BNE and new route ex PER) has a great business class sale to MNL, with return tickets starting from A$1545 to A$1580 depending on Australian origin.

Note that the travel period from PER is more generous, starting in March 2020, but the others only have these promotional fares available from August to November:


A minimum of two persons must travel together on the Oz - MNL special fares, so the MNL fares are a 'companion sale.' This restriction does not apply to other destinations on the extensive PR network, so one can travel alone if purchasing a SYD - PEK fare.

Fares to other destinations are not quite as cheap per kilometre but the J fares are typically way below what overpriced QFi, and other carriers, charge. A$2399 return in J MEL - BKK is lower than most if not all on this route, but one has to change planes in MNL. A$2239 MEL - TPE J return is also very good, while PEK at A$1949, or SYD - PEK/PVG at A$1959 J return is even better, though not all MNL - regional Asian destination flights have lie flat J seats. Check FlightRadar24 by typing in the flight number on Google to see what 'equipment' normally operates each route radiating from MNL and then look up Seat Guru's site to see the configuration.

In short, the A321neos (2-2 narrowbody), all A359s and a majority of the A333s (both 1-2-1 in J, widebody) have lie flat seats with seatback entertainment. The older B773ERs have 2-3-2 in J and 'almost' lie flat but regional older A321(ceos?) and A320s have B738-like 2 plus 2 J seating.

One could travel J return to MNL and if budget was tight, use the ITA Matrix site to find an economy return fare on PR (to LHR only) or another carrier typically of about P40000 (roughly A$1150) to somewhere in Europe, and have an 'open jaw' itinerary (inbound to say LHR to minimise travel tax, back to MNL from VIE, ZUR or FRA) with a Eurostar ticket plus Eurail Pass or other rail travel arrangements in between.

If any fares involve overnight in MNL, get a good travel agent such as My Travel (03 9314 6957) to contact PAL and organise an 'STPC' hotel (free overnight accommodation, plus transfers and all meals.) That way one can briefly see MNL that while hardly representative of Philippines because it's so urbanised, is nonetheless another megacity to tick off.

A further option is to have a few days in Philippines in one direction. If connecting to or from a different carrier in MNL, I strongly recommend overnighting in an hotel. August to November is in typhoon season and while these do not occur everyday - - far from it - they are (like volcanoes) unpredictable and can wreck travel plans if one was relying on connecting within a few hours. GRAB (not UBER, which sold out to GRAB in SE Asia) is available at MNL airport terminals: typically, there's an inner roadway staffed booth so no problem even if one doesn't have data or a local SIM card. White street taxis are also available from Bay 11 of Terminal 2, inner roadway and are cheap as flagfall is only P40 (A$1.15.)

I find the J catering on PR to be good to excellent, but lack the 'foodie' expertise of some AFFers such as N860CR or Cruiser Elite. However on the Oz - MNL - OZ flights, one typically receives a welcome drink (champagne seems sometimes to be offered, but I don't drink it), canapes, a sizeable entree, a main with choice of Asian, Western or Filipino, dessert (can be as simple as Serendipity ice cream ex Oz or Carmen's Best ex MNL) plus if desired a cheese plate.

Certainly way better than what QFi offers on some routes, and on PR if one wants it - I often don't - a full breakfast is on offer if one is on a night flight that lands +1.

AFF has a MNL stopover guide within its hallowed pages:

 
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Thanks for the reminder, I saw the email, but forgot to look. Just booked 2 x J with PR for August for $3K. MEL-CEB then MNL to MEL. Adding CEB-MNL was going to add $800 in J ($400 each).
 
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Thanks for the reminder, I saw the email, but forgot to look. Just booked 2 x J with PR for August for $3K. MEL-CEB then MNL to MEL. Adding CEB-MNL was going to add $800 in J ($400 each).
Yes, Philippines not the only country where strange as it may seem, often far cheaper to book domestic sectors separately and save quite a stack as against booking online direct, with a travel agent or online through a third party site and including these domestic sectors.

I don't know whether airlines just "hope" we'll be silly enough to pay over the odds for an international plus domestic sector(s) return trip or whether it's due to an inability of the software to add just a small extra charge for domestic sectors, or even to 'common rate' destinations (charge the same fare) as in this case MNL and CEB.

It's irritating to have two PNRs when one would do the trick, and at times can disadvantage travellers with lower luggage allowances.
 

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Decisions decisions. Flying J, I need to connect to an Etihad flight in MNL (separate tickets). Do I risk PR with a 5 hour window to get from T2 to T1, and hope there's no flight delays? Unsure worth joining ANA just for the 10,788 which would be earned (by my calculations).

Or go the previous day, take an extra day of annual leave, overnight with MH? This at least gives me some QF points and SCs. Plus the cost of hotel.

Price of flights is similar enough to be irrelevant.
 
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A five hour window in MNL is normally sufficient, because there are airside buses to take you the fairly short distance from T2 to T1. These buses mean you avoid what can be very busy public roads on the landside. The buses operate about every half an hour: just go to the baggage carousels and show the designated staff member your arrival boarding pass and more crucially your itinerary for onwards travel.

MH: not a carrier I like (although have used it in the past.)
 

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Decisions decisions. Flying J, I need to connect to an Etihad flight in MNL (separate tickets). Do I risk PR with a 5 hour window to get from T2 to T1, and hope there's no flight delays? Unsure worth joining ANA just for the 10,788 which would be earned (by my calculations).

Or go the previous day, take an extra day of annual leave, overnight with MH? This at least gives me some QF points and SCs. Plus the cost of hotel.

Price of flights is similar enough to be irrelevant.
Sounds like we are planning something similar. The $2k fares on EY to Europe from MNL are hard to resist. From my experiences 5hrs is plenty of time to get from T2 to T1.
 
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PR has extended this seat sale until 6 February 2020, but more importantly, one can now travel from all but PER between February and 10 December 2020 - close to Christmas. PER is from the recommencement of PER - MNL (30 March) to 10 December. As always it's the outbound date that matters.

I've not checked availability of the 'companion' fare to MNL and return, or the 'solo' fares beyond but in past sales it's been good to excellent depending on the route.

See the PR website.
 

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Sounds like we are planning something similar. The $2k fares on EY to Europe from MNL are hard to resist. From my experiences 5hrs is plenty of time to get from T2 to T1.
We planned to do the same, but the problem is that there is a condition on this fare that requires a minimum 3 day stay at the destination, you cannot (as I understand it) transit through Manila and get the Etihad flight on the same day. Can anyone confirm if that means you have to stay in Manila, or can you, say, go to Borocay and do the minimum 3 day stay there, before returning to Manila to get your Eithad flight onwards to Europe?
 
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We planned to do the same, but the problem is that there is a condition on this fare that requires a minimum 3 day stay at the destination, you cannot (as I understand it) transit through Manila and get the Etihad flight on the same day. Can anyone confirm if that means you have to stay in Manila, or can you, say, go to Borocay and do the minimum 3 day stay there, before returning to Manila to get your Eithad flight onwards to Europe?
You misunderstand that condition. The 'three days' refers to the time between your first PR flight and your return (in your case to Australia.) Nothing to do with a connection you make in MNL (unless you were doing a status run and were back in MNL within say 36 hours, in which case the restriction would kick in.)
 

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