Possible Asia expansion?

[Himeno]

I found this quote in an old FR news article from Feb 2013 talking about the EK link up and loss of BA codeshares,

However, Qantas is considering opening up more Asian destinations from 2016 if the performance of Qantas International improves, with Beijing, Seoul, Mumbai, Delhi and Tokyo-Haneda under consideration.

HND is happening. Likelihood of the others?

 

[ajw373]

I found this quote in an old FR news article from Feb 2013 talking about the EK link up and loss of BA codeshares,


HND is happening. Likelihood of the others?

The question is what aircraft would they use, considering they have none available in this time frame to expand.

 

[Ansett]

The question is what aircraft would they use, considering they have none available in this time frame to expand.

What about the 787 option they have?

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

Probably on a costings based side of things, that they would put those 787s for JQ into all those ports.

 

[ajw373]

Probably on a costings based side of things, that they would put those 787s for JQ into all those ports.

But they are being used by JQ so not avilable. Nor are any deliveries in this time frame.

 

[JohnPhelan]

The question is what aircraft would they use, considering they have none available in this time frame to expand.

The 787s. The options that QF have for the 789s are for delivery of the aircraft from 2016.

 

[ajw373]

The 787s. The options that QF have for the 789s are for delivery of the aircraft from 2016.

In August 2014 the date was pushed out to 2017.

 

[PaulST]

I wonder how many seats they sell on the Manila flight? And even the Hawaii flight (esp with JQ running a 787 there). I wonder if A330s could be stolen from there any sent to India?

 

[ajw373]

I wonder how many seats they sell on the Manila flight? And even the Hawaii flight (esp with JQ running a 787 there). I wonder if A330s could be stolen from there any sent to India?

If you are going to steal an A330 for Mumbai it would need to be a 332. In fact you may well recall the international 332's were obtained specifically for this flight *and China), when 333 operated Mumbai they had to stop in Singapore.

As for Hawaii apparently Qantas does ok on those flights even with JQ on the route too and Manila who knows, but clearly, like Jakarta it is 4 days a week, so they must be able to justify those flights.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

I wonder how many seats they sell on the Manila flight? And even the Hawaii flight (esp with JQ running a 787 there). I wonder if A330s could be stolen from there any sent to India?

These stats are available to anyone: https://www.bitre.gov.au/statistics/aviation/international.aspx

Download the monthly pdf

 

[ajw373]

These stats are available to anyone: https://www.bitre.gov.au/statistics/aviation/international.aspx

Download the monthly pdf

That data shows how many flights and maximum seats are available, not how many were sold.

 

[markis10]

That data shows how many flights and maximum seats are available, not how many were sold.

It shows seat utilisation, which is mostly sold seats.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

That data shows how many flights and maximum seats are available, not how many were sold.

It definitely shows load factor. Look again

 

[Aussie_flyer]

The Manila loads are pretty high with the most recent stats

 

[ajw373]

It definitely shows load factor. Look again

It shows seat utilisation, which is mostly sold seats.

Care to point out which table, as the one that looks like the obvious one doesn't have it from what I can see and the link is for several different things.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Care to point out which table, as the one that looks like the obvious one doesn't have it from what I can see and the link is for several different things.

The monthly pdf has it
https://www.bitre.gov.au/publicatio...al_airline_activity-monthly_publications.aspx

 

[ajw373]

Ta see that now, so yeah shows maybe not a good idea to give up MNL, which is not a surprise really because if it was bad Qantas would have cut it by now.

 

[yohy?!]

Ta see that now, so yeah shows maybe not a good idea to give up MNL, which is not a surprise really because if it was bad Qantas would have cut it by now.

Bugger all competition as well with PR and Cebu Pacific to contend with

More leisure routes maybe going over to JQ, BKK?

 

[Ansett]

Bugger all competition as well with PR and Cebu Pacific to contend with

More leisure routes maybe going over to JQ, BKK?

Cant see QF pulling out of BKK. If they were going to then surely based on AJ's previous comments around non profitable routes it would have already been culled.

 

[ajw373]

Bugger all competition as well with PR and Cebu Pacific to contend with

More leisure routes maybe going over to JQ, BKK?

The same documents above show BKK is doing ok too with 88% seat utilisation.