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Lately I've been working on 1 x J Oneworld RTW and it is proving tough to find availability on the dates/destinations I'm looking at. No doubt I'll get it done eventually but I'd be driving myself crazy trying to do the same for 4 pax. Hopefully you're WP and can request some awards that aren't seen by the rest of us.

Not WP unfortunately! Have managed to book a couple previously.
Lots of preparation and study of release patterns, and some back up options if expected release dies not occur. School holidays add more complexity too :eek:
 
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Would like to have less points but booking classic reward seats nearly 12 months out is quite limiting. Though as a WP I can find some seats on some airlines if willing to travel at off-peak times.

Also if I use points it makes it much more likely I’ll lose status and slows my progression towards LTG. LTG if I reach it should give a reasonable ability to use my points without having to worry about maintaining status anymore.
 
Not a lot these days except for what I earn on the Woolworths card. Still got around 150K. Most flying with VA in recent years so mainly earn with them. The advantage of VA is that you can use points for the surcharges, fees, excises, levies and taxes whereas with QF you're often stuck with a tax bill which might not be far off the cheapest fare you could get for the route.

Have to keep the balances down in light of Ansett fears. Not that it could ever happen again...
 
Most of you talk as if booking international J (I'm talking QF) is a piece of cake. As far as I am aware you have no chance of that unless you do it 12 months out -- but who knows whether they'll be able to go in a year's time? QF Classic Rewards internationally, especially in J, are a joke.
 
Most of you talk as if booking international J (I'm talking QF) is a piece of cake. As far as I am aware you have no chance of that unless you do it 12 months out -- but who knows whether they'll be able to go in a year's time? QF Classic Rewards internationally, especially in J, are a joke.
QF availability may be tough, but partner awards aren't too difficult to get if you are a little flexible. If your wanting to travel on a particular date, then forget most FF award programs as you generally need to be a little flexible on travel dates unless you get them right at award release.
 
Most of you talk as if booking international J (I'm talking QF) is a piece of cake. As far as I am aware you have no chance of that unless you do it 12 months out -- but who knows whether they'll be able to go in a year's time? QF Classic Rewards internationally, especially in J, are a joke.
Yep I will be booking about 11 months out. Have done plenty of practice runs online and have always been able to find a booking that would work for me. Booking that far ahead for holidays is normal for me, so of no concern.
 
Most of you talk as if booking international J (I'm talking QF) is a piece of cake. As far as I am aware you have no chance of that unless you do it 12 months out -- but who knows whether they'll be able to go in a year's time? QF Classic Rewards internationally, especially in J, are a joke.

I agree that some comments come across as a "piece of cake" but there is a lot more to it than it seems.
  • Sure booking 11-12 months out is the best option and I would suggest that some find the flights then apply for leave to tie in with the trip.
  • Some are willing to pay the extra QF points tax to fly with other OW airlines.
  • Others will choose to travel F or J on what may seem to be as obscure routes however seats may be available.
  • Yes the QF, and other *OW and QF partners fees and taxes are obscene.
  • QF WP, WP1 and CLs can request the release of of reward seats on QF metal,
  • QF F or J is by no way the best product in the market but the point made above is a handy fall back position.
  • I would suggest that there is a number of members on this site that have FF accounts with other *OW, *A, and skyteam just for the purposes of searching for J or F rewards.
  • Those that are not constrained by things such as school holidays can take advantage of late notice rewards seats.
There will others who disagree with my position/stance but I do not care. I think @Bilton nailed it on this thread, to paraphrase "it took some work, 700K QF points, $3100 in fees and taxes for over 35K worth of flights."
 
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  • Others will choose to travel F or J on what may seem to be as obscure routes however seats may be available.
  • I would suggest that there is a number of members on this site that have FF accounts with other *OW, *A, and skyteam just for the purposes of searching for J or F rewards.
Guilty as charged, Your Honour. ;)

My Amex MR points balance, as of about 5 minutes ago, is 3*.

*They have to be transferred in multiples of 4, so I had a few left over.
 
Most of you talk as if booking international J (I'm talking QF) is a piece of cake. As far as I am aware you have no chance of that unless you do it 12 months out -- but who knows whether they'll be able to go in a year's time? QF Classic Rewards internationally, especially in J, are a joke.
For some it is a piece of cake. It all depends on how many points you have and where you want to go. It's all about flexibility and last minute planning.

Some make their holiday destination where availability exists. i.e. book the flights first and then plan the holiday around those flights.

Some book multiple destinations with points from multiple programs. i.e.book with Qantas to the USA the *Alliance to Europe and Asia.

And some just buy points in programs such as Avianca where premium availability on Thai is in abundance and then go where they want whenever they want.

Avoid popular destinations such as BKK where you need to book 10-11 months out unless you're prepared to go via SIN/HKG at additional cost.
 
Our family has more points and miles than many mostly due to ATO, land taxes, shire rates, water rates, payroll taxes , Woolies gift cards ,Star Track freight and stuff like that.

No adoption papers are being accepted this month.

We just made it to 40 years in our main business so we were young once.

I just thought I should say a special thank you to serfty and madrooster for our latest paid for QF run Perth to Los Angeles. Yes it is true I can buy a ticket or two to stay Platinum with a QF.
 
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To answer your second question, yes I can call up QF and request seats to be released, however it is on QF only not other OW carriers or QF partners. This is available to all WP or higher. Like others I do not like paying QF taxes so CX was always a good option until the rewards dried up, QF is used when I cannot get on the likes of CX, JL, QR, EK etc.

I tried getting a seat released on a 20min flight and was told no.:( It seemed like it had a good load on board but was surprised. Ticket was a bit pricey.

I'm intrigued by the topic as I have been thinking how many points is too many and I think I'm at that stage where I'm looking hard at what I have and also rethinking loyalty.

Have >400k QF but only redeemed ~ 16.5k points/yr over 4yrs. Used for 2 upgrades transcon before deciding it wasn't worth it and one 'free flight' which I thought was good value on EK for partner.
Hoping to use them when we next decide to go to the UK or US together, but we're also going to the US but +1 work only allows Y and I have a trip planned already to the UK but no dates were available. I find it hard to plan 11-12mo out. Was planning another trip but someone decided to get married and taking time off for that etc. Am glad we hadn't booked anything.

I've used VA points more and generally on economy in Asia short haul or to reduce cost of Scootbiz or transfer to SQ. I justified it by saying it brought down the overall cost of the trip and still had more VA points left. Have 60k left.

NZ APD have 4.5k They seem easy to accrue with cc but still don't use that many. It's 1600 to for SQ J bookable online (glitch last few times I looked and not showing).

AMEX have 303k to transfer to SQ. Possibly a top up to VA or QF if needed.

Bought a lot of AA points and used some for QF F redemption. I think redemptions on QF from Auckland - Perth and Asia - NZ will be the best use along with NZ - Europe. Used Rocketmiles for a 1 night hotel stay at a city with no chain hotels so easy to keep AA alive. Have 238k left. The flexibility for their use is appealing but no plans to use them this year but things can change!

Currently buying Lifemiles really for redemption on star alliance and NZ J return legs when those pop up but doing it via club miles. 49k so far. Need 80/85k to cover flight to US. NZs partner award chart is ok if you get nonstop flights but if you want to fly through then LM might be better.

Have SQ 48k and 62k in individual accounts ready to go. I know will use those within 3yrs.

Bought AS for CX HKG-AKL. But availability:rolleyes:. It's a day flight up and want to try economy and PE but happy to pay for those. Red eye back so wanted J but apparently availability better in summer departing AKL with double daily flights rather than the return leg. I think good value with the intra-Asia trick but not sure how likely we are to use that. So I regret buying this currency. I'd rather stick with AA as more flexible despite AS having good value on this route. Availability in Feb was good flying to EU but that's winter! Anyway easy to keep alive with Rocketmiles also every 24mo I think. Only 32k.

My main issue is we don't tend to do a lot of personal long haul flying so I just accrue with work. I think I have reached the point where at least I know AS was one too many programmes to join.

Also finding cash deals has never been better with google flights. I have played around to the point of making a list of departure and arrival cities for NZ/Oz to Asia/EU and Asia - EU. Which is reasonably quick to run through compared to undertaking some searches. It takes away the hassles of taxes and availability, although sometimes introduces the hassle of flying an extra leg to get to a more remote position (thanks QR!) :p:D But I find this downside more tolerable. No devaluations to think about. I figure there has to be an airline with a sale on or a city somewhere in Asia where the flight loads aren't great on my dates. I just need to find it! :)

The whole status thing I've been pondering. Might be better to just fly what I want, be happy, then possibly unhappy doing a status run but it's only one trip and depends what I can create. Sort of beats being unhappy on multiple other flights during the year.
 
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The lovely Miss 11sjw (12 yrs old) decided that before and after shots were required to record points used towards the upcoming trip.

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Around 2.5m VFF, 1m QF and 2.2m MR (soon to be 4m MR prior to April 15 *cough*) and randomly, 8k in EY.

Burnt 230k QF and 275k KF for a Japan stint later this year and applied for a plat charge to try and take my chances with a points doubling so the MR balance stays as MR. Don't like the idea of transferring 4m to KF and have some of it expire 3 years later.

I need more annual leave, goddammit.
 
Really? How are you calculating the better value? Very interested
Really? How are you calculating the better value? Very interested to know.
There is no mathematical formula involved. I'm just saying I have a preference to use the points to spend time with family. I expect others might have a very different view.
 
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Good to read Miss 11sjw is watching. A frequent flyer fiend in the making is what I am thinking.
I hope you are going somewhere nice with those burnt points.
 
Good to read Miss 11sjw is watching. A frequent flyer fiend in the making is what I am thinking.
I hope you are going somewhere nice with those burnt points.
Not all on the RTW ticket as we booked a few one way flights.

PER-JFK-(side trip into Ontario)-FCO-PRG-(side trip Krakow-London-Paris)-CDG-SIN-PER. Xmas with family (in-laws) in Philly. New Year's with wife's college friends in Toronto.

Looking forward to it immensely!
 
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We hit 12 million in a warehouse but they halve on transfer so the points look better before we switch them.
 
Have plenty. Just not able to plan any spending right now
I'm a bit the opposite. I have lots of plans but not enough points.

If you have heard of the term 'Free to a good home' then I'm happy to provide the good home for anyone's spare points. I assure you they will be well looked after until spent!
 
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