Plane carrying Brazilian soccer players crashes in Colombia

[juddles]

Just listened to the ATC recordings. Shocking. The pilot did not advise he had an emergency until he was already lost. His first report that he had a "fuel problem" was only a couple of minutes before impact - by then they never had a chance. The ATC were very good.

I am not a pilot, but does anyone know how accurate / what info the pilot would have had about his real fuel levels?

His call of an emergency for "electrical failure" appears to be when the engines had finally shut down from fuel starvation.

 

[Quickstatus]

Early days yet, but it seems that even in this modern age, the human factor is able to crash planes.

I start from the premise that every plane after take off IS going to come back to earth and the human factor defines the manner in which it comes back to earth..

Interestingly one survivor said he survived due to his adherence to crash landing procedures (as a passenger) while other passengers got up out of their seats.
But looking at the crash site pictures he might have been lucky as well as the aircraft is in smithereens and because usually airplanes crash in a ball of fire but no apparent burn marks in this one.

( for the passengers and families )

 

[Himeno]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ab5x_C-CFg

 

[moa999]

I am not a pilot, but does anyone know how accurate / what info the pilot would have had about his real fuel levels?
His call of an emergency for "electrical failure" appears to be when the engines had finally shut down from fuel starvation.

That's what I took from the recordings as well.
From the tracker it looked like all they did was two circles, so the aircraft didn't appear to be carrying much reserve, certainly not enough for a diversion for weather/clouds etc.

 

[jb747]

From the tracker it looked like all they did was two circles, so the aircraft didn't appear to be carrying much reserve, certainly not enough for a diversion for weather/clouds etc.

It's a myth that aircraft always carry holding/diversion fuel. The basic requirement is that they finish the landing roll with 30 minutes of fuel remaining.

Supposedly the FO was on her first flight in that position. In any event, it's interesting that we aren't hearing her on the radio.

Whilst I'm not generally a fan of comments on pprune, it was said the other day that the root cause will come back to the fact that the pilot owned the company. It will certainly be part of it. Additionally, there's discussion about the flight plan, which, if not fake, shows a journey elapsed time of 4:22, and amazingly, an endurance of 4:22.

 

[Major]

Heavily wooded terrain on that hill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJSF6Z3h5Ow