Passenger forces flight to turn back to Perth

[cosi]

Why was the person allowed to board?


https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/24430920/passenger-forces-flight-to-turn-back/

 

[dmitri]

douche bag

 

[Mogul]

and he should be sent a bill from VA to cover all their costs as will.

 

[under the radar]

Why was the person allowed to board?


https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/24430920/passenger-forces-flight-to-turn-back/

pax can appear fine preflight and during boarding...and crew have no idea what substances a pax may have taken/take during a flight...and then 'mix' it with booze!!!! quite frankly...ban him..throw the book at him..make him pay restitution...i'm sick of hearing about these scenarios...and i'm sick of people providing 'excuses' .... people need to take responsibility for their actions.... yes...I'M MAD AS HELL

 

[Daver6]

pax can appear fine preflight and during boarding...and crew have no idea what substances a pax may have taken/take during a flight...and then 'mix' it with booze!!!! quite frankly...ban him..throw the book at him..make him pay restitution...i'm sick of hearing about these scenarios...and i'm sick of people providing 'excuses' .... people need to take responsibility for their actions.... yes...I'M MAD AS HELL

And then there is the opposite. I've seen some people who are so drunk they can barely walk allowed onto flights. Clearly nothing is done about intoxicated passengers boarding an aircraft. Thankfully none of the observed drunks cause any issues.

 

[NFF]

They do stop drunk passengers from boarding but it's probably not strictly enforced.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Why was the person allowed to board?

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/24430920/passenger-forces-flight-to-turn-back/

pax can appear fine preflight and during boarding...and crew have no idea what substances a pax may have taken/take during a flight...and then 'mix' it with booze!!!! quite frankly...ban him..throw the book at him..make him pay restitution...i'm sick of hearing about these scenarios...and i'm sick of people providing 'excuses' .... people need to take responsibility for their actions.... yes...I'M MAD AS HELL

Exactly. People can appear 'normal' when boarding but after take-off they pop pills which in itself is bad enough but if mixed with alcohol we get scenarios like this time and time again.

Why do these situations always seem to involve a flight to or from Perth?

I was on a DRW/BNE flight a couple of years ago when some guy had popped pills on top of alcohol then when it was apparent he would be met on arrival by authorities an off-duty policeman onboard observed him disposing of his stash down the WC.

When I stepped off the a/c there were about 6 AFP in the aerobridge & apparently another 10 on the tarmac with a paddy wagon to meet this fellow who had serveral outstanding warrants for his arrest. End result one prawn trawler missing a crew member.

 

[J_seeker]

It pays to raise concerns re passenger condition with cabin crew before take off. Two years ago travelling Hobart-Melbourne on last QF flight of the day passenger in my row was clearly 'not fit to travel'. Advised cabin crew who agreed ... spoke to Captain and passenger was offloaded. Senior cabin crew and Capt thanked me for bringing this to their attention. Seems all too frequent some people will not accept responsibility for their behaviour.

 

[Daver6]

They do stop drunk passengers from boarding but it's probably not strictly enforced.

So what exactly would a drunk passenger need to be doing to be denied boarding? Obviously being aggressive should do it, but same would (hopefully) apply to a sober person. I've literally seen pax so drunk they couldn't walk straight, flop in their seat and pass out. On another occasion I saw someone who was so drunk they smashed their head on the over locker. They were so drunk it didn't phase them in the slightest. Like it didn't even happen. So if that level of intoxication is allowed on, what isn't?

 

[TomVexille]

So what exactly would a drunk passenger need to be doing to be denied boarding? Obviously being aggressive should do it, but same would (hopefully) apply to a sober person. I've literally seen pax so drunk they couldn't walk straight, flop in their seat and pass out. On another occasion I saw someone who was so drunk they smashed their head on the over locker. They were so drunk it didn't phase them in the slightest. Like it didn't even happen. So if that level of intoxication is allowed on, what isn't?

I would think both of your examples should probably have been denied boarding but I don't work for an airline so I couldn't tell you what their policies are.

 

[under the radar]

So what exactly would a drunk passenger need to be doing to be denied boarding? Obviously being aggressive should do it, but same would (hopefully) apply to a sober person. I've literally seen pax so drunk they couldn't walk straight, flop in their seat and pass out. On another occasion I saw someone who was so drunk they smashed their head on the over locker. They were so drunk it didn't phase them in the slightest. Like it didn't even happen. So if that level of intoxication is allowed on, what isn't?

Unfortunately, no 'policy' is failsafe...some 'problems' still occur...but believe it not, it happens a lot less, than in the past (due to a change in attitudes/more support between ground staff/cabin crew/flight crew and the airline management (policy changes within the airline).

whatever the 'scenario'...it still boils down to, 'take responsibility for your own actions'

 

[Warks]

I misread the thread title as "Passenger forces flight to turn back to Earth"

Was wondering how I missed the launch of Virgin Galactic.

 

[NFF]

I saw two men being denied boarding due to the safety obligation of the airline. All they did was talking loudly at the gate.

 

[Beta4Me]

I saw two men being denied boarding due to the safety obligation of the airline. All they did was talking loudly at the gate.

Did they say 'bomb' or was one of their names Terry Wrist?

 

[NFF]

They were probably a bit drunk.

 

[The Rok]

Using alcohol and/or drugs as a defence for idiotic or illegal behaviour should be outlawed by the courts.

1. Nobody forced you to take alcohol or drugs, that's a conscious decision YOU mad while sober.

2. You are still responsible for your actions. Take some responsibility.

3. Drink/Drugs doesn't suddenly change your personality, all it does is bring out the real you from the closet, you would need to harbour those thoughts/feelings first, the substance you take brings them out.

4. Alcohol doesn't turn somebody violent, it brings out their already existing violent behaviour.

Some people need to grow the hell up.