No weapons allowed at InterContinental Perth City Centre

[kerfuffle]

Instead of the usual facilities closed/physical credit card needed/etc. in the Important notice section, IC Perth City Centre has instead advised that no weapons are allowed at their property.

Kinda thought that would be a given?

 

[markis10]

I am sure they were allowed at the old IC @ Burswood,

 

[SYD]

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Instead of the usual facilities closed/physical credit card needed/etc. in the Important notice section, IC Perth City Centre has instead advised that no weapons are allowed at their property.

Kinda thought that would be a given?

Quite common annotation for hotels in Nth Am… Maybe someone at IHG thinks WA is the Wild West?…oh, wait…

 

[dajop]

Yep. North American approach.

When I used to lead safety and health for APAC for a US company we had some corporate auditors reviewing a small warehouse we were leasing in Melbourne’s northern suburbs. One of the non-compliances was that the sign at the entrance did not have the language “No firearms permitted” (or something to that effect).

It was a hard no from me on adding it to the sign.

 

[AuSammy]

Yep. North American approach.

When I used to lead safety and health for APAC for a US company we had some corporate auditors reviewing a small warehouse we were leasing in Melbourne’s northern suburbs. One of the non-compliances was that the sign at the entrance did not have the language “No firearms permitted” (or something to that effect).

It was a hard no from me on adding it to the sign.

From the trends over recent yesrs, perhaps US signs should also say “no shooting school kids on these premises”

 

[Seat0B]

I have seen signs "no weapons allowed" at a number of US hotels, shopping centres, restaurants etc over the years. It's quite a jarring piece of culture shock.

 

[dajop]

I have seen signs "no weapons allowed" at a number of US hotels, shopping centres, restaurants etc over the years. It's quite a jarring piece of culture shock.

At a different US company head office, also quite sobering with this sign inside the door to the toilets (restroom):

 

[markis10]

In shocking news, WA just announced they are banning shock briefcases in Nov, better not take mine to the IC

 

[Happy Dude]

I'd expect to see that in a MEL hotel.

I saw an ad on FB reels for a US company that has designed school furniture to minimise shooting impacts. Metal desks that become enclosed shelters, attack-proof doors with upgraded locking mechanisms, desks that extend to be bullet proof screens. How sad of an indictment that there's a market for this.

Having said that, I sometimes work on government and private sector offices that often include attack-proof features.

 

[kerfuffle]

I'd expect to see that in a MEL hotel.

Or hotels around the Western Sydney area in light of what's happened this week ...

 

[HMcM]

To me it's just a weirdly vague policy. If it was a no firearms policy that would be one thing, but a no weapons policy can mean so many different things to different people. If a cricket / baseball team is staying are they allowed their bats? If a chef is travelling with their knife roll are they allowed to stay? If I travel with a swiss army knife am I in violation? If someone travels for a martial arts tournament and has a quarterstaff (a long stick) are they in violation?

Anything is a weapon if you want to make it one.

 

[OZDUCK]

Those shock briefcases have nationally been a Prohibited Import without a permit for decades.

 

[Ryan Bingham]

I have seen signs "no weapons allowed" at a number of US hotels, shopping centres, restaurants etc over the years. It's quite a jarring piece of culture shock.

I lived/worked in the US&A from the late 90s to the GFC. My favorite (ahem) example was when I was visiting a client in Mininoplace (Minneapolis) and there used to be signs everywhere we went downton advising "no concealed firearms". Being a Brit (like an Aussie, less sunburn, more rust), I thought it was quite odd, but it was explained to me that, as there was no state law forcing handgun owners to conceal their weapons, it was lawful to wander around with them on display, holstered on your hip. I didn't understand it then and I still don't understand it now. Probably why I left.

 

[nancypants]

I lived/worked in the US&A from the late 90s to the GFC. My favorite (ahem) example was when I was visiting a client in Mininoplace (Minneapolis) and there used to be signs everywhere we went downton advising "no concealed firearms". Being a Brit (like an Aussie, less sunburn, more rust), I thought it was quite odd, but it was explained to me that, as there was no state law forcing handgun owners to conceal their weapons, it was lawful to wander around with them on display, holstered on your hip. I didn't understand it then and I still don't understand it now. Probably why I left.

Concealed carry is usually a higher vetting level of permit/more restricted, presumably the logic is that if you can see it you can make a decision to leave the premises or have a different level of response to the gun carrier (eg if I have a verbally demanding patient who I can see is carrying a weapon, I’ll manage them in a different way to someone who isn’t armed), but concealed carry robs you of that situational awareness hence is more restricted

If you ride the DC metro as it wends its way through the district, VA and possibly MD there are various announcements saying words to the effect of “you are now entering [whichever], please note concealed carrying of weapons is not permitted”. Occasionally see folk pull stuff out of places and unconceal them

 

[Daver6]

I think they've just done that to prevent @JohnM stepping foot on the property. He's quite a weapon

 

[Scarlett]

I have seen signs "no weapons allowed" at a number of US hotels, shopping centres, restaurants etc over the years. It's quite a jarring piece of culture shock.

This is weird. If you’re a person carrying a weapon with ill intentions you’re not going to pop back to the car and leave it there, are you?
Similarly, if you’re a person carrying a weapon because you’re scared and believe you need it for self-defence, again, you’re not going to take any notice.

So what practical effect is it serving?

Post crime/action/event is the extra penalty for disobeying the sign going to mean anything…
10 years jail for attempting to attack with a machete and have an extra month for disobeying the sign.

 

[exceladdict]

Possibly due to the upcoming arms manufacturer convention and the various protest exclusion zones? Saw something about that on the news but just generally planned to avoid the city anyway

 

[HMcM]

This is weird. If you’re a person carrying a weapon with ill intentions you’re not going to pop back to the car and leave it there, are you?
Similarly, if you’re a person carrying a weapon because you’re scared and believe you need it for self-defence, again, you’re not going to take any notice.

So what practical effect is it serving?

Post crime/action/event is the extra penalty for disobeying the sign going to mean anything…
10 years jail for attempting to attack with a machete and have an extra month for disobeying the sign.

The gun free zone dilemma in the US exactly. Only applies to those following the law already and not to those that are going to be a problem and break the law.

It's interesting the way this thread has gone because in my US trips I have spent the most time in Texas where it is actually illegal for hotels to prevent guests from storing firearms in their rooms or vehicles on hotel property.

Concealed carry is usually a higher vetting level of permit/more restricted, presumably the logic is that if you can see it you can make a decision to leave the premises or have a different level of response to the gun carrier (eg if I have a verbally demanding patient who I can see is carrying a weapon, I’ll manage them in a different way to someone who isn’t armed), but concealed carry robs you of that situational awareness hence is more restricted

It's an interesting one between open and concealed carry because it very much depends on the state. Until quite recently Florida was the opposite. There was a pretty stringent ban on open carrying but concealed carry was permitted with a licence.

Possibly due to the upcoming arms manufacturer convention and the various protest exclusion zones? Saw something about that on the news but just generally planned to avoid the city anyway

Wouldn't think the people attending a arms convention in Perth are going to be packing heat when they head back to their hotel.