No QF codeshare on 'foreign' stand-alone domestic flights

[RooFlyer]

I'm probably the last person here to know this, but just in case ....

I went onto the QF web site today looking to book a flight LAX-LAS-LAX on a QF code share on AA metal, but the site wouldn't let me do it. I knew that codeshares existed for this sector, so I called Qantas, who politely told me that such codeshares were only available as part of an international QF ticket, as QF doesn't have X freedom rights within the US.

D'oh! Yes, that's obvious isn't it? To be fair to myself, I always book international tickets through a TA, but its been a case of 'learn something every day'.

But the good news was that Qantas told me that I could get those sectors included in my existing 'Circle Pacific' ticket, using QF codeshare, for a change fee of abt US$120, less than the fares I saw on the AA booking site.

So a good outcome and worth the call to Qantas

 

[serfty]

Yes, it's often the case that such codeshares are only available in conjunction with an international itinerary, an in Qantas case, they insist on their flights being used.

 

[markis10]

AFAIK, with the exception of NZ, Qantas dont have Cabotage in any country.

 

[RooFlyer]

Is the QF flight LAX-JFK-LAX considered cabotage? Never got a handle on cabotage / X freedom stuff (obviously)

 

[markis10]

Is the QF flight LAX-JFK-LAX considered cabotage? Never got a handle on cabotage / X freedom stuff (obviously)

Cabotage (9th freedom) is the carriage of air traffic that originate and terminates within the boundaries of a given country by an air carrier of another country. Qantas dont have Cabotage on that route as you cannot book LAX-JFK or VV without it being part of an international ticket, its actually an example of the 8th freedom of the air, although ICAO only recognize the first five freedoms officially.

Freedoms of the air - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cabotage does exist within the EU for member countries and their airlines.