Nice wines I have drunk recently - Red or White

[Whining&dining]

LOL. I’m sure you left out some adjectives there! “Rampant tannins” I thought very creative and amusing since you haven’t tried the wine.

Sorry, not being pejorative , just amused.

To quote Bachman-Turner Overdrive "Bbbaby you ain't seen nothing yet..."

 

[Rugby]

I stumbled across this place, Lavinia, in Madrid today that is the best wine experience I’ve had for a while and thought it would be of interest to traveling wine buffs. It’s an extensive wine shop downstairs, but upstairs is a tapas bar and also full restaurant - lunch only for the restaurant. So you can do wine flights and tapas together or a full degustation with wine pairings. I was wary, but we did a Rioja flight and had some tapas and both were top notch.

 

[TheRealTMA]

I stumbled across this place, Lavinia, in Madrid today that is the best wine experience I’ve had for a while and thought it would be of interest to traveling wine buffs. It’s an extensive wine shop downstairs, but upstairs is a tapas bar and also full restaurant - lunch only for the restaurant. So you can do wine flights and tapas together or a full degustation with wine pairings. I was wary, but we did a Rioja flight and had some tapas and both were top notch.

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Definitely get some CVNA Imperial 2009! Fab. Brought back several bottles from Spain last October!

PS: If you have time and haven't already been, do go to Museum Cerabaldo. It's fabulous and has a very very impressive armory collection in the basement.

 

[Steady]

I stumbled across this place, Lavinia, in Madrid today that is the best wine experience I’ve had for a while and thought it would be of interest to traveling wine buffs. It’s an extensive wine shop downstairs, but upstairs is a tapas bar and also full restaurant - lunch only for the restaurant. So you can do wine flights and tapas together or a full degustation with wine pairings. I was wary, but we did a Rioja flight and had some tapas and both were top notch.

There is a thread here you could repost this into

 

[debgow]

I’m afraid I am not a wine buff and don’t enjoy red wine usually but I have found a very light fruity red wine - Echo Falls Rose Wine with Summer Berries.

 

[opusman]

I stumbled across this place, Lavinia, in Madrid today that is the best wine experience I’ve had for a while and thought

MrsOpusman and I were there yesterday too! Yes they have a great selection of Spanish and European wines (even a little bit of new world stuff tucked away upstairs). They also have a nice selection of spirits. It kind of reminds me of Hedonism in London.

 

[Daver6]

One of the most amazing wines I've had. Chardonnay made in the Jura style, but in amphora not barrels. So sad I could only get one bottle when it was released.

 

[JohnM]

One of the most amazing wines I've had. Chardonnay made in the Jura style, but in amphora not barrels. So sad I could only get one bottle when it was released.

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What were the characteristics that made it so special?

 

[Daver6]

What were the characteristics that made it so special?

Very profound nose. Almost like old an white burgundy but more intense. Lots of nuts, hints of caramel on the nose. Again, intense palate. Would never have picked the 14.9% alcohol. Balanced acid with similar notes with an incredibly long finish.

It's Chardonnay not as we know it Jim

 

[TheRealTMA]

Very profound nose. Almost like old an white burgundy but more intense. Lots of nuts, hints of caramel on the nose. Again, intense palate. Would never have picked the 14.9% alcohol. Balanced acid with similar notes with an incredibly long finish.

It's Chardonnay not as we know it Jim

Molto interessante!

Amphora made wines in the old tradition from Fruili, Georgia and Eastern Europe can be very strange. Not had any Chardonnay from amphora but have tried friulano, Pinot Gris and Pinot Noir.

The trend for orange wines made in these open fermenters one should definitely try but seems more to be a fashion trend IMHO than a good technique for making wines. The caramel probably comes from the technique.

By all means you should try more and report back! But personally I’m on the downward slope for these ‘natural’ wines.

The ones, particularly Chardonnay, made in the new concrete eggs, to me are very very interesting with enhanced intensity and creaminess from the convection and self induced turnover of the lees rather than batonnage.

Interestingly, some wineries in the Mornington peninsula are/were experimenting with amphora fermentation - Quealy friulano is one where you can buy same grape fermented in amphora and tradition tanks.

We need more tasting reports on such wines!

 

[Steady]

Pinot Thursday for me.... a real treat - lovely Pinot, just right (almost as good as premium Tassie Pinot)

 

[TheRealTMA]

Pinot Thursday for me.... a real treat - lovely Pinot, just right (almost as good as premium Tassie Pinot)

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Pinot Thursday not Sunday? Interesting! Maybe I’ll have to have two Pinot nights a week!

 

[Daver6]

Molto interessante!

Amphora made wines in the old tradition from Fruili, Georgia and Eastern Europe can be very strange. Not had any Chardonnay from amphora but have tried friulano, Pinot Gris and Pinot Noir.

The trend for orange wines made in these open fermenters one should definitely try but seems more to be a fashion trend IMHO than a good technique for making wines. The caramel probably comes from the technique.

By all means you should try more and report back! But personally I’m on the downward slope for these ‘natural’ wines.

The ones, particularly Chardonnay, made in the new concrete eggs, to me are very very interesting with enhanced intensity and creaminess from the convection and self induced turnover of the lees rather than batonnage.

Interestingly, some wineries in the Mornington peninsula are/were experimenting with amphora fermentation - Quealy friulano is one where you can buy same grape fermented in amphora and tradition tanks.

We need more tasting reports on such wines!

I should have added that a flor forms on top of the wine in the amphora, hence the in the style of Vin jaune from the Jura.

What you say about the concrete eggs is interesting. When I visited Pontet Canet last year, they're moving a lot of their production to just that but still doing some in oak.

 

[blackcat20]

Opened the Serrat Grenache Noir last night. Light, lots of flavour, hints of raspberry, very smooth and easy to drink. Gorgeous colour, almost pink rather than red.

 

[Steady]

Opened the Serrat Grenache Noir last night. Light, lots of flavour, hints of raspberry, very smooth and easy to drink. Gorgeous colour, almost pink rather than red.

I got one of those last year, I guess it’s about time to try it - and then decide if I should get more this coming release.

 

[blackcat20]

I got one of those last year, I guess it’s about time to try it - and then decide if I should get more this coming release.

I'll definitely be getting more.

 

[Steady]

Had this last night, quite Tanic on opening- settled after 90 minutes or so - or I got used to it...

 

[Daver6]

View attachment 121896 Had this last night, quite Tanic on opening- settled after 90 minutes or so - or I got used to it...

The latter...or you had some food with it. Tannins don't soften with aeration.

How was it otherwise? Fruit still primary and plentiful?

 

[Steady]

The latter...or you had some food with it. Tannins don't soften with aeration.

How was it otherwise? Fruit still primary and plentiful?

Not much fruit at all evident to me, what was there was masked by the tannin. It was not a good example of a 389 from my limited experience with them

 

[CJEMNMAC]

Smashed this magnum tonight

Fantastic !! smooth, fruity and delicious... all 1.5L of it