Newcastle Airport announces NTL to PER direct

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jrfsp said:
Thats a long ride on what's basically an LCC interior (just not the prices), no charging, no wifi / streaming, 29 inch pitch......cant wait to see the pricing.
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JQ would actually be better.
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Initial pricing is $299 each way for Red eDeal
 
jrfsp said:
long ride on what's basically an LCC interior (just not the prices), no charging, no wifi / streaming, 29 inch pitch.
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Hadn't even thought of that. Definitely not a premium experience for a 4hr flight.

Hopefully it's just a trial to see if sufficient demand.
An A220 at 10J/127Y is pretty similar to the 319 at 0J/150Y
 
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TBH I am surprised that NTL never get main lines. Do most people who live in NTL area prefer to drive/bus/train to SYD to fly instead? I always thought more and more people will move up to NTL area due to SYD house prices being so insanely expensive.
 
kamchatsky said:
TBH I am surprised that NTL never get main lines. Do most people who live in NTL area prefer to drive/bus/train to SYD to fly instead? I always thought more and more people will move up to NTL area due to SYD house prices being so insanely expensive.
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There are actually a lot of people who commute to SYD for work, so going down there for a flight is not a big deal.

It’s only been since covid that NTL has had jets and J seats from QF, which is a huge improvement. It has historically been restricted by JQ who used to have a base in NTL so it was over capacity and had very low fares. As a business traveller why would you book a slower flight on a Q400 when you could fly on a faster A320, who also had higher frequency.

Since the base was closed the balance is going back further to QF but going mainline would reduce frequency, so better to use small jets. Further routes like ADL/PER are not viable for a 737-800.
 
justinbrett said:
There are actually a lot of people who commute to SYD for work, so going down there for a flight is not a big deal.

It’s only been since covid that NTL has had jets and J seats from QF, which is a huge improvement. It has historically been restricted by JQ who used to have a base in NTL so it was over capacity and had very low fares. As a business traveller why would you book a slower flight on a Q400 when you could fly on a faster A320, who also had higher frequency.

Since the base was closed the balance is going back further to QF but going mainline would reduce frequency, so better to use small jets. Further routes like ADL/PER are not viable for a 737-800.
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While i somewhat agree i would much rather do the 30mins to NTL than drive to SYD 2hrs.

The reasons beside time are the parking at NTL is cheaper, security is quicker, there are no tolls (if you do the M11, M2, LCT and ED it can be about $26 each way), the M1 can be a cr**p shoot, the train (Sh*tkansen) is horrendous ( i know, i do it for work) plus you have to change at Central and pay the extortion charge for the AirportLine.

I think NTL is also aiming for those in the catchment north and west of NTL
 
justinbrett said:
NTL was never going to get mainline. It doesn’t even have mainline to BNE/MEL. All of its services are QLink and has been that way for 20+ years.
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Uneducated on my half - assuming E190 wouldn't make the distance?

Still, it's a baffling call for the ex-Spirit birds now calling the Spirit of Australia home. Thought it may even be a JQ route.

This is a good post thread about it.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1927904675006648791
 
I wonder if QF will order the a319neo down the track, for FIFO routes and thin routes such as what was announced today
 

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