New Zealand Reports of the Virus Spread

People might see my comment as sadistic or whatever, but Victorian authorities lifted 5.0 too early.

Delta is a game changer.

No not sadistic at all. I think the evidence is now quite clear that if they had of stayed in lockdown for say another fortnight that the outbreak would have either been quenched, or greatly minimised.

The missing link from the Traffic Controller and/or his partner to the Al Taqwa Teacher and her partner (or possibly to the parents as they may have been infected first) may never be known. But as fate would have it they still went to work (Al Taqwa is very large), socialised and played football while symptomatic as they chose to not get tested till over a week too late and the lack of restrictions by the time that the teacher returned her positive test meant that thousands had already been potentially been exposed and may already infected as many Covid generations had past.

The chains stemming from the partner at that football game and the shopping centre where the partner worked may well have been the most damaging, as while Al Taqwa was large those associated with it have been very compliant.

The missing link will probably never be found as the lateness of the positive tests probably will mean that they had recovered before the teachers was found to be positive. And that link may have sired others besides the teacher and her family.
 
It's far too early to say the lockdown worked. For the point in the outbreak (day 12), the number of cases far eclipse any of the recent Australian Delta outbreaks.

Until you get to zero infectious in the community on a sustained basis, you're not out of the woods.
 
Is it just me who's secretly wanting their elimination strategy to fail just to prove NZ is no better than other countries?
 
Is it just me who's secretly wanting their elimination strategy to fail just to prove NZ is no better than other countries?

Ha, personally I could care less either way - I just see it as a stay of execution even if they suppress this back down to zero anyway.
 
Is it just me who's secretly wanting their elimination strategy to fail just to prove NZ is no better than other countries?
It doesn't really matter, as the previous post points out.

You can either accept that Delta is not possible to eliminate, or you can perhaps find out that it is possible through onerous restrictions of months on end at the cost of billions of dollars in economic output and the immeasurable suffering of the community.

And if you do succeed via the latter, it is simply the passing of time that occurs before you have to do it again.

In any case, NZ seem to be doing exactly what most (all?) states in Australia are, which is flattening the curve (again) until vaccinations are more widespread.
 
Is it just me who's secretly wanting their elimination strategy to fail just to prove NZ is no better than other countries?

Melbourne, Canberra and Newcastle were all very positive at one point too.

Hate to throw shade, it might happen, but it might not.
 
89K vaccinations is pretty amazing, that's the equivalent of ~450K in Australia.

But they are burning through their stockpile - it will have to be reduced back to previous levels if another supply deal isn't done.

It will be interesting to see Australia's daily rate now that supply is not an issue with 3 different vaccines on offer.
 
89K vaccinations is pretty amazing, that's the equivalent of ~450K in Australia.
Hopefully they don’t have the slowdown of SE Qld and Melbourne, post- “successful “ lockdown if NZ manage to get back to zero (temporarily). NZ probably need some swap deals soon
 
Read a report that they are no. 2 on the list of countries vaccinating the most in last 7 days, but yes have also heard reports they may need to slow vaccination down based on supply.
 
Read a report that they are no. 2 on the list of countries vaccinating the most in last 7 days, but yes have also heard reports they may need to slow vaccination down based on supply.

It's not just reports - JA has briefed it
 
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Hopefully they don’t have the slowdown of SE Qld and Melbourne, post- “successful “ lockdown if NZ manage to get back to zero (temporarily). NZ probably need some swap deals soon

NZ is rich I’m sure like Australia they can bump down third world countries down the list somewhere :)
 
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