"New" International Economy Class Dining

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I wasn't shooting it down at all, which part of my comment was shooting it down. Please elaborate? I was just talking about how the meal would be distributed. That's it. I don't get how this is shooting it down.

Here is my comment:

"So it would seem without the tray you are handed a plastic plate with the meal, and then given a dessert or similar in a plastic package along with your pre-wrapped plastic cutlery. So you put it all out separately on the table. And the bread roll is also physically handed to the person? or maybe sat on top of the meal. Presumably there is no side salad anymore"



Poor choice of words on my part. However neither you ( and no one else I suspect) has seen this in action "yet". Presupposing (negatively) how it will run is maybe a bit premature.
You may well be right. It may well be a farce. Let's wait and see
 
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Poor choice of words on my part. However neither you ( and no one else I suspect) has seen this in action "yet". Presupposing (negatively) how it will run is maybe a bit premature.
You may well be right. It may well be a farce. Let's wait and see

Still wrong... I wasn't being negative at all. I was simply talking about the distribution of the meal to the seat. Where in my post have I said that it will be worse than before? or somehow bad?
 

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I have read this thread.

Really? And you still can't understand the point I made about the ECONOMY menu listing aperitifs and how that might play out when they can't even provide such a service in business?

Ok. Seems I give people too much credit for being able to understand simple concepts.
 

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Really? And you still can't understand the point I made about the ECONOMY menu listing aperitifs and how that might play out when they can't even provide such a service in business?

On my last QF J longhaul (LAX-BNE) I was able to get a Bloody Mary before the meal service began. Maybe the younger crews on the LHR/DXB routes haven't done the bartender course yet :)
 
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Certainly do not want a glass of cordial (or whatever they call it) if travelling Y. I remember when you used to be offered a proper pre-meal drink in Y, but that seems to have been long enhanced. Last time (a few years ago) that I was in Y international I made the point of asking for a G&T and a wine with the meal. The FA had to come back with it later but it was the principle of the thing. It was listed on the menu.
 

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Really? And you still can't understand the point I made about the ECONOMY menu listing aperitifs and how that might play out when they can't even provide such a service in business?

Ok. Seems I give people too much credit for being able to understand simple concepts.

I think the heading "Aperitifs" is symbolic here in that the drinks listed there would be classed mostly in that category. I guess you could rename it "mixes" or "coughtails" since they are the only such items in the list.

It doesn't mean that there is a specific aperitif service, nor is an aperitif limited to the selection given, nor is the ability to drink any of those limited to only the aperitif.

The complaint about your not getting an aperitif in a timely fashion in J - though not unimportant - is fairly tangential to this thread.

On my last QF J longhaul (LAX-BNE) I was able to get a Bloody Mary before the meal service began. Maybe the younger crews on the LHR/DXB routes haven't done the bartender course yet :)

And so far for me in QF international J, they haven't fallen down on that aspect either.

I've heard a couple of reports to the contrary so it's likely the "consistently inconsistent" thing at play.


Introducing Select on Q Eat in Y will be interesting, more from the point of view of catering for potentially a hundred to a few hundred meals to order, especially when catering at outstations. The more interesting aspect will be when a passenger in Y is asked what they want to eat, is the Select on Q Eat system designed to only ensure (as much as possible) that a given passenger's preference is catered for, or are FAs meant to cross-match a manifest to know exactly what a given passenger had ordered and to then give them that meal without further intervention?
 
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I think the heading "Aperitifs" is symbolic here in that the drinks listed there would be classed mostly in that category. I guess you could rename it "mixes" or "coughtails" since they are the only such items in the list.

It doesn't mean that there is a specific aperitif service, nor is an aperitif limited to the selection given, nor is the ability to drink any of those limited to only the aperitif.

The complaint about your not getting an aperitif in a timely fashion in J - though not unimportant - is fairly tangential to this thread.

The heading creates an expectation of service offered. I initially asked how they are going to live up to the standard they've created if they can't provide that in business. That is not tangential, being all about the economy service.

Someone then decided to attack the idea that I raised as being unreasonable. So I asked how that is unreasonable in the example given.

It would be a failure of interpretation to think I've made a complaint about getting an aperitif in business class. The context is pretty clear in thread, no need to turn my post into something it's not.
 

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So the simple solution is just to rename "Aperitifs" on the menu to "coughtails / Mixes" (strike one or the other if necessary).

Someone get Qantas onto the white service phone.

They should probably change the same on the Business and First menus; no point calling them as aperitifs since the word generally is a drink before a meal, and is not a limited selection (by tradition or practice).
 

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Good grief. Here's a suggestion for the menu, and more importantly, the actuality.

Pre dinner drinks
On Qantas we are pleased to offer you your choice of beverage to relax before dinner [insert price qualification, if any, here]

Dinner beverages
With your dinner service, we will be again offering you your choice of beverage, from our extensive selection.


Is that what they are trying to say?
 

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Dont know how you manage it in 12 hours . LHR to MEL. Maybe that's why you need a wine
QF10 is wheels-up from London at 1.30pm to reach Melbourne at 8.55pm. That's seven hours and twenty-five minutes in my book.

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