New Global Carbon Tax

[drron]

The ICAO in montreal has agreed to a new plan to implement a carbon tax.The airlines agree with the decision.

Aviation pact on global warming wins go-ahead
Airlines back UN accord to offset emissions growth by funding green projects.
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Delegates from nearly 200 nations approved the accord at the UN’s International Civil Aviation Organisation in Montreal in a step the agency’s head, Fang Liu, described as a “historic first”.
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One of the countries that helped push the Paris deal over the line was Canada, where the centre-left government of prime minister Justin Trudeau announced a carbon-pricing plan on Monday that could lead to a tax of C$50 a tonne by 2022.
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Instead of facing a patchwork of measures worldwide, airlines have backed a plan that will see them offset their emissions growth by funding projects that cut carbon pollution, such as wind farms or solar-power plants.
The scheme will be phased in over several years from the early 2020s and cost the aviation industry as much as $24bn by 2035, according to estimates from the UN agency.

https://www.ft.com/content/2a9c7f14-8bd7-11e6-8aa5-f79f5696c731

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[Limewood]

Unless the huge polluters like China and India make a masive effort to reduce pollution this move will not make one iota of difference.

 

[Melburnian1]

Wind farms are hopeless, unreliable and an extremely costly way to generate power.

Some nations such as Denmark and Germany are scaling these back. Look at what has just occurred in South Australia.

I agree with Limewood: the airlines' policy is a 'feel good' move but will have no effect at all, other than possibly raising the price of tickets for no reason.

Economic growth is already better in Australia than it is in feel-good Canada with its movie star new Prime Minister: Canada's carbon pricing will further disadvantage Canadians relative to Australians.

 

[yohy?!]

No idea why it's so difficult to deal with this situation - there was global agreement to phase out CFCs decades ago and the companies just followed suit with minimal fuss, they have far too much influence in our systems of government now it seems.

 

[Quickstatus]

[OT]I'm surprised that celebrity Canadian PM did not get Nobel prize for physics given his ease with quantum physics [/OT]

 

[Quickstatus]

No idea why it's so difficult to deal with this situation - there was global agreement to phase out CFCs decades ago and the companies just followed suit with minimal fuss, they have far too much influence in our systems of government now it seems.

Because the rules were same for everyone.

And BTW the CFC Ozone thing is at best a product of bad assumptions driving a conclusion

 

[Deleted member 29185]

Personally, I think this is a great thing. We hear all too often about changes not making a difference, or is anti-economic growth, or is left wing or is right wing or is too red or too green, or all a stunt .....

Who cares. When come to the world and the environment, we know certain things pollute and certain things reduce pollution and if we can contribute to a reduction in pollution than that's fabulous as I'd much rather a clean world than a polluted one. Also if we hide behind the "China isn't in, so therefore we do nothing" story, then we're as guilty as China.

I also dispute the above-mentioned comment on wind power. The facts are there for anyone interested. Australia can transition entirely to a renewably powered continent except we won't whilst basically every single government we have are too addicted to digging cough out of the ground to sell. Let's face it, just mention a contraction in the coal, oil, gas and uranium mining and politicians of all colours go weak at the knees, lose their testicl_s (the male variety of course, and only those that had them to begin with) and start an uncontrolled flapping of their jaws which produces absolutely zero intelligible noise.