New domestic routes | Page 2 | Australian Frequent Flyer
Australian Frequent Flyer

Welcome to Australia's leading independent Frequent Flyer and Travel Resource since 1998!
Our site contains tons of information that will improve your travel experience.

Joining AFF is fast, simple & absolutely free - register now and take immediate advantage of these great BENEFITS.

Once registered, this box will disappear. And you will see fewer advertisements :)

New domestic routes

Joined
Dec 6, 2017
Messages
88
Qantas
Gold
Flights
My Map
That 3rd destination appears to be Sydney to Ballina Byron.

Looks like one of the tiles on the Qantas homepage has flipped:

"Launching flights between Sydney and Ballina (Byron), sale on now
Flights commence 29 March 2020 subject to government and regulatory approval.”

No word on Orange or Griffith.
 

jamescara

Intern
Joined
Jul 18, 2013
Messages
92
I wonder if there will be an few "Beagles" regularly sniffing there way through the luggage and gate area of the Ballina Byron flight 😆
 

docjames

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 10, 2007
Messages
8,724
Flights
My Map
Byron area has a high number of high net wealth individuals with residences in the area - surprised it’s taken so long for QF to start this route.
 

jakeseven7

Active Member
Joined
Sep 9, 2005
Messages
885
Byron area has a high number of high net wealth individuals with residences in the area - surprised it’s taken so long for QF to start this route.
Following a well trodden and proven strategy of letting the airport suffer with Jetstar for a while, then let VA come in and upgrade pax a bit, then swoop in and steal all of the premium high yielding passengers from VA. OOL was the same, Bali the same.
 

bfm

Junior Member
Joined
Dec 15, 2016
Messages
18
I note the QANTAS-Link Sydney - Byron flights will be operated by Eastern (a subsidiary of QANTAS). But, not all regional routes operated by QANTAS-Link are operated by QANTAS or subsidiaries. SYD-OOL, for example, is contracted out to Cobham Aviation.
 
Joined
Dec 6, 2017
Messages
88
Qantas
Gold
Flights
My Map
It depends on the aircraft type as the different fleets are specific to certain operators,

The Dash-8 Q200/Q300 fleet is operated by Eastern Australia Airlines
The Dash-8 Q400 fleet is operated by Sunstate Airlines
The 717 jet fleet is operated by National Jet Systems (Cobham)

The first two (EAA and Sunstate) are fully owned Qantas subsidiaries.

National Jet Systems (Cobham) are the only 3rd party operator that fly under the Qantas brand. All the others are Qantas owned.
 

gwilli1

Established Member
Joined
Jul 28, 2011
Messages
1,234
Flights
My Map
Byron area has a high number of high net wealth individuals with residences in the area - surprised it’s taken so long for QF to start this route.
Agree , should has resumed years ago . I think it wont take long for it to move to a Q400 /737, sometime later in the year , especially during peak periods.
 

iRobbo

Intern
Joined
Jan 24, 2011
Messages
89
I note the QANTAS-Link Sydney - Byron flights will be operated by Eastern (a subsidiary of QANTAS). But, not all regional routes operated by QANTAS-Link are operated by QANTAS or subsidiaries. SYD-OOL, for example, is contracted out to Cobham Aviation.
Qantas mainline (B737) operates most of the Sydney- OOL services - I think only 1 a day is Cobham (B717), maybe more on the weekend
 

coco50

Active Member
Joined
May 15, 2006
Messages
856
Qantas
LT Silver
I wonder if there will be an few "Beagles" regularly sniffing there way through the luggage and gate area of the Ballina Byron flight 😆
The only dogs I have seen at Ballina Airport are companion animals for visually impaired people. I have been flying to/from BNK since the airport opened in 1987
 

coco50

Active Member
Joined
May 15, 2006
Messages
856
Qantas
LT Silver
Following a well trodden and proven strategy of letting the airport suffer with Jetstar for a while, then let VA come in and upgrade pax a bit, then swoop in and steal all of the premium high yielding passengers from VA. OOL was the same, Bali the same.
QF are only operating a timetable to suit business customers at present. Early morning departure from BNK and about a 17:10 departure from SYD. Most of the people that fly into BNK on JQ to go to Byron are the younger less cashed up tourists. They also do not do due diligence on their destination. One taxi driver told me that a young couple hailed a taxi wanting to go into town. The driver asked them whereabouts in Ballina. They told him they wanted to go to Byron. He told them it was 35km and would cost about $100 from BNK to Byron Bay. They immediately got out of the taxi and tried to get on the Byron Easybus.
 

chai_1022

Member
Joined
Mar 3, 2010
Messages
124
This is a good move by Qantas. I live in the area and regularly commute to Sydney. The flights might skim a few pax off JQ and VA services (I usually see a smattering of Q-tagged bags on JQ and Virgin flights), but given they both time flights towards leisure pax, I doubt it'll hurt them too much.

REX are the ones who will likely suffer the most as their daily services currently offer the only option for a day-return trip to Sydney (with aircraft sitting on the tarmac overnight at BNK). They charge like wounded bulls on the route, so it'll be interesting to see if their fares come down to compete with QF. Mind you on QF it's a 20 year old rattly turbo-prop vs a 30 year old one on REX with similar in-flight service, so it's not a huge upgrade for regulars on this route. Fingers crossed it's be a success for QF and we'll see 717s and eventually mainline 737s take over.
 

bfm

Junior Member
Joined
Dec 15, 2016
Messages
18
Qantas mainline (B737) operates most of the Sydney- OOL services - I think only 1 a day is Cobham (B717), maybe more on the weekend
There appears one in the am for B737, the remainder (several) are all B717
's.
 

sbor90

Established Member
Joined
Feb 23, 2015
Messages
1,435
Flights
My Map
Mind you on QF it's a 20 year old rattly turbo-prop vs a 30 year old one on REX with similar in-flight service, so it's not a huge upgrade for regulars on this route.
I imagine the most significant difference would be the ground experience at SYD T3.
 

chai_1022

Member
Joined
Mar 3, 2010
Messages
124
I imagine the most significant difference would be the ground experience at SYD T3.
Precisely. QP access is the main difference plus the fact that T2 is a zoo at the best of times... Though the pain of T2 can be minimised by using the 'secret' security entrance right behind the ground floor REX boarding gates :)
 

Jaded_Elf

Junior Member
Joined
Oct 23, 2015
Messages
18
It will be interesting how they will actually fit these flights into the schedule.

Would've thought a jet would be better (especially with a J option, giving premium customers a choice other than JQ - example, the Cobham/QantasLink 717s on MCY & HTI).
 

Community Statistics

Threads
84,763
Messages
1,981,347
Members
52,124
Latest member
lp137
Top