New Chinese Aircraft... who's game?

[gumpy]

Hey All

Just saw the pictures of the new Chinese Aircraft.

Just wanted to do a quick poll, how soon would you be prepared to step foot on one if at all?

 

[UP4014]

Riding a Chinese assembled aircraft is quite low on my agenda, very low actually, actually I don't think I ever need to.

 

[moa999]

You do know that Airbus also has a factory in China




albeit (at this point) only designed to support domestic carriers
Airbus sees 40 deliveries from China plant in 2012 | Reuters

 

[munitalP]

LOL - I still refuse to fly on a A380 (see told you Oz_mark something would go wrong!) let alone a Chinese designed and built aircraft.

I will happily explain my reasons to anyone with 1/2 an hour over a beer suffice to say the engineer in me screams "no way munitalP!"

 

[munitalP]

@gumpy - what is the link to the pics?


munitalP

 

[codash1099]

If they put lead in the paint as they did with the toys it might not get off the ground

 

[NM]

@gumpy - what is the link to the pics?


munitalP

no idea what grumpy was looking at, but here is a story about the C919.

 

[munitalP]

no idea what grumpy was looking at, but here is a story about the C919.

cheers!


munitalP

 

[munitalP]

heres another link to a Time report

Aerospace: Eyes on the Skies - TIME

munitalP

 

[oz_mark]

LOL - I still refuse to fly on a A380 (see told you Oz_mark something would go wrong!) let alone a Chinese designed and built aircraft.

I will happily explain my reasons to anyone with 1/2 an hour over a beer suffice to say the engineer in me screams "no way munitalP!"

No sense of adventure:shock:

 

[samh004]

Don’t the Chinese make their own fighter jets (of course happy to be corrected if they’re getting them from somewhere else, surely not the US)? I know there’s a slight difference to passenger travel, but they do have experience, and while I’m guessing the western world isn’t likely to hear about many failures, I haven’t heard of any.

Boeing has done well with developing military spec aircraft and transitioning the technology to passenger stuff, so China could do as well.

I’ll wait for the test flight results specifically, but I don’t think if there were any issues with the test flights that there’d be any issues with the aircraft themselves, I just mightn’t be the first in line. I eagerly anticipate their developments.

 

[yohy?!]

i see air asia C919's in the future, im sure many will fly them

history has shown instances when both airbus and boeing have rushed planes to market with disastrous results, i don't agree with branding something poorly built or engineered simply because it's chinese

 

[markis10]

Don’t the Chinese make their own fighter jets (of course happy to be corrected if they’re getting them from somewhere else, surely not the US)? I know there’s a slight difference to passenger travel, but they do have experience, and while I’m guessing the western world isn’t likely to hear about many failures, I haven’t heard of any.

You have now

From Aviation Safety Network > ASN Aviation Safety Database > Geographical regions index > ASN Aviation Safety Database results

And with 40 fatalities, they are not fighter aircraft!

 

[samh004]

You have now

From Aviation Safety Network > ASN Aviation Safety Database > Geographical regions index > ASN Aviation Safety Database results

And with 40 fatalities, they are not fighter aircraft!

Yikes!

Well, there we go then, either way I’m still not going to avoid this aircraft based on other incidents, but I’m still going to tread cautiously if I ever take up flying in China.

 

[gumpy]

The new airlines, if they clock up 15 years of service comparable to the Boeings and Airbuses then I'll happily step on... Just not at the start I think...

The only new passenger aircraft i'd be happy to set foot on from day one I think would be if it were made by the Swiss... where quality is considered more important than anything else... maybe the German's also...

 

[Nigelinoz]

If the aircraft is ever going to fly to the US or even in US airspace one would think that it would have to be certified by the FAA so I wouldn't have any problems in flying on it,after all I've flown on a Ilyushin 96 and that didn't kill me so I can't see any reason not to try this one.
(I'm happy to buy you a beer next time I'm in Melbourne Mr P if you want to expand on your thinking.)

 

[Ric]

Slightly OT.

Would you be game to step into a newly built Chinese fast Train?

 

[markis10]

Slightly OT.

Would you be game step into a newly built Chinese fast Train?

Or stay in a Chinese hotel in Shanghai??? Its all about risk management.

 

[Ric]

Or stay in a Chinese hotel in Shanghai??? Its all about risk management.

My thoughts exactly!

 

[munitalP]

Or stay in a Chinese hotel in Shanghai??? Its all about risk management.

The last time I checked, my hotel wasn't travelling at 800km per hour and 35,000 feet high

Risk management - my risk management is to stay out of Chinese designed & built aircraft. The number of very public Chinese manufacturing sort cuts to increase profits is immense in the short history available, I just don't trust that every hydraulic fitting is going to have the necessary quality control, or every high tensile bolt is actually high tensile.

Sure, the design will work - the general principle of 4 wings, a tail and fuselage, it helps if the pilot's in the front, need some wheels and a couple of jet engines, throw it into some design software, check the output in finite element engineering software and bingo - you have a working model for an aircraft.

Regardless of how many European experts you hire, millions of dollars spent on R&D, you will not remove the greed factor from out sourced component manufacturing. Just look at the Shanghai Panda incident! The company was knowingly selling milk powder laced with Malamine - a chemical that artificially increases nutrient count - yet is deadly to humans. They didn't care and killed a heap of babies. All in the name of a few extra RMB per sale!

This is my opinion only, but China has a long way to go before they (stereotyping I know) can be trusted in business, to always do the right thing, and to never put profit in front of quality. Until that point of time is met, I will keep out of Chinese made aircraft!