New BA Cabin Crew Strikes - 18/5 - 22/5, 24/5 - 28/5, 30/5 - 3/6, 5/6 - 9/6 2010

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Mal said:
While it's a rant, people can help you find the best solution... Perhaps some more details about your flights may be a start.
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It's cool, really - as I said, I'll live, but thanks for the calming approach :) and offer of group assistance.

Once I got past the concern, I actually appreciated the fact that I'd get to see a new city, if only for a few hours, and to extend an adventure. I'm fine with the whole thing, and got a more than satisfactory outcome in terms of flights.

I'm just an eternally angry (ex)young man, who gets peeved by someone defending a corporation over a workforce (I also got p*ssed at the recorded announcement whilst on hold at BA: "(We're sorry) our evil cabin crews have destroyed your lives, just as they've destroyed our company...").
 
Looking at soultions, it seems BA have cancelled every second flight on the affected days int he first wave of strikes on LHR-CDG. Bummer is it looks like ours is one of the cancelled so we'll probably be shunted to the later departure (or the earlier if we can transit T3-->T5 quickly enough). Not so bad an only gets us to CDG 2hrs later than scheduled - not enough to worry about!

More time in Terraces lounge @ T5!

FWIW Travel insurance kicks in @ 4hr delay.
 
I’m sure Unite will now be scheming a new way to screw BA, ugh, i mean… to negotiate with BA the contractual changes they want. :rolleyes:
 
samh004 said:
I’m sure Unite will now be scheming a new way to screw BA, ugh, i mean… to negotiate with BA the contractual changes they want. :rolleyes:
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I guess when a company unilaterally imposes changed working conditions, thereby increasing workloads in exchange for nothing, and removes staff entitlements to punish striking workers (who were already punished by striking and not being paid) thereby effectively reducing staff remuneration, oh yeah, and engages in price fixing, they're not screwing anyone, just doing their job (really well).
 
edison said:
Good for the passengers for now .....
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Yes I think it is time that I re read the insurance policy on delays caused by stikes. i sure we will get hit in July or Aug when we are flying :shock:
 
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Think what you like digga, but when the environment your airline is in has you making losses and losing money left right and centre, you have a £3.7 billion pension deficit and your staff are (and have been) getting benefits that other airlines staff haven’t been getting… for the same amount of effort and a reputation of not being particularly special to fly with… you have to ask yourself if the current salaries are sustainable.

I don’t think they are, and I don’t think a lot of people think they are, well, other than the staff that have been getting them for the past x amount of years.

I’ve said it before, and it’s macabre, but I’d love to see them persevere and BA just fail… then I’d laugh, because there’d be no salaries and benefits then.

It was probably BA’s screw up in the first place for offering such generous packages, but I don’t think anyone can expect them to last forever, considering everything that’s going on in this world.
 
samh004 said:
It was probably BA’s screw up in the first place for offering such generous packages, but I don’t think anyone can expect them to last forever, considering everything that’s going on in this world.
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Gee... why would anyone expect that their salary package not be reduced on a whim of the company. :S
 
Dave Noble said:
Gee... why would anyone expect that their salary package not be reduced on a whim of the company. :S
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My mistake, they should expect their salary to get exponentially bigger until the company folds in on itself. That makes more sense. :p
 
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AFAIK, the vote for the strike had nothing to do with Salary.

The main issue was to do with the Decision by BA to reduce by one the number of cabin crew for certain long haul flights. The union said they could not do this without consultation. BA said they could. It went to court and BA won. The union decided then to initiate strike action.

No-one was to lose any of their Salary or their employment, however, some were going to have additional duties on those flights.
 
Well I'm relieved, travel as planned hopefully for us (pending Volcano.......:shock:)
 
serfty said:
The main issue was to do with the Decision by BA to reduce by one the number of cabin crew for certain long haul flights. The union said they could not do this without consultation. BA said they could. It went to court and BA won. The union decided then to initiate strike action.
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So the law sided with BA, in a court, and the union is still allowed to cause industrial action? Seems like the law isn’t being followed by all.
 
samh004 said:
So the law sided with BA, in a court, and the union is still allowed to cause industrial action? Seems like the law isn’t being followed by all.
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Not really.

The court's decision has no impact on the union's entitlement to call a strike. They are, for the legal sense, two separate matters.

The court's decision to demand the strike be called off is not automatic as a function of the previous ruling.
 
anat0l said:
Not really.

The court's decision has no impact on the union's entitlement to call a strike. They are, for the legal sense, two separate matters.

The court's decision to demand the strike be called off is not automatic as a function of the previous ruling.
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I presume you are posting about two separate court decisions?

My most recent post was in reference to events in 2009.
 
serfty said:
I presume you are posting about two separate court decisions?

My most recent post was in reference to events in 2009.
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Rather, it doesn't matter.

The point being made is that there is no connection - from a legal perspective - between the decisions of a court on non-strike matters to the now-strike matters. They are separate cases which are ruled on separate merits (although previous history can be used as evidence); I guess what I'm saying is that just because Unite lost so-and-so judgements doesn't automatically mean they are not entitled to challenge for a strike (at least in the legal sense; in a moral sense we have a different argument, but the law and legal processes are rarely moral).


Looks like Unite's heading back for an appeal. According to BA, they're saying they can't put a full schedule back due to this. Not sure who's trying to hold up who or make who look like an a** here...... In any case, if Unite really just wanted to grip BA by the balls, they're doing a fine job now...

Also, this was posted on the FT BA Strike Masterthread. Not sure if it is real or a fabrication: FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - Master thread - strike discussion [18 May to 09 June planned strike called off]


VS must be having a field day in saving squillions of quid in advertising in not having to actively denounce the name of its direct rival.
 
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