Need Complimentary Invitation

[Mal]

Here's my take on things. Apologies if anyone is offended.

A post requesting a Qantas Club pass (or several) by someone with no posting history or small posting history is never viewed well by forum regulars. Why? They cannot see what someone has contributed to the forum, and yep it is similar to someone sitting outside a train station asking for money.

I have found a lot of members here to be very generous at times with travel 'guff' (eg passes, amenity kits, guesting into clubs, assistance with planning, gifting of free upgrades etc). However, you will find that these things tend to occur when people 'know' each other through a series of posts, general assistance with flying matters etc.

The forum rules at AFF were changed a while ago to prohibit solicitation for QP guest passes:
The Australian Frequent Flyer Online Community - FAQ: Posting Guidelines - What's not permitted

Posts containing promotional messages for commercial products or services are not permitted. This includes the solicitation and/or the exchange of frequent flyer points and airport lounge guest passes.

perhaps Admin needs to make this rule more clearer.

All that aside, someone once bit me big time when I gifted them a free Qantas Club pass. They didn't use it, but instead sold it on ebay for a reasonable sum of cash, and then lied to me about how they used it when I sent an enquiry email. I have a PDF copy of the ebay page where they sold it, the picture on the ebay page had certain markings matching "rub marks" on the Qantas Club pass I'd gifted, the suburb matched up and the username matched a variant of their name.

I have had some good transactions where I've gifted passes without a problem though, but experiences like the one above make you think carefully about items and what you do with them...

 

[medhead]

I also hope that you contribute and inform us all with your travel knowledge.

I can only assure you that once we become friends, I will be willing to donate any passes that i might have, or even guest you into a lounge if that situation occurs.

thankfully I have generous friends and family that give me passes (unlike some of the people on here it would seem) or

I can't help but thing that further consideration of this statement might lead us to the source of any misunderstanding that might have occurred.....

 

[THE TRIMMER]

If you have so many generous friends & family why don,t you ask them for guest passes? I paid for my QP PRIVILEGES,as my father said if you don,t pay,you can,t play!!

 

[Anna]

Complimentary passes are given to paying members surely to be given to friends and family so A. they can try the lounge and B. if they like it, generate business and perhaps buy a membership?

Yes, good point. However you don't seem to fit into either of those categories. You've tried the lounge several times and you say you've decided it is not good value for you.

 

[samh004]

Complimentary passes are given to paying members surely to be given to friends and family so A. they can try the lounge and B. if they like it, generate business and perhaps buy a membership?

Yes, good point. However you don't seem to fit into either of those categories. You've tried the lounge several times and you say you've decided it is not good value for you.

I see no reason to flog a dead horse (although I might), but that's exactly what I focused on too. No one one here is a friend (yet at least) or family, yet you expect us to just give away 3 passes so you can use the lounge, and probably never hear from you again.

and thankfully I have generous friends and family that give me passes (unlike some of the people on here it would seem)

Are you saying we're already friends and/or family to you? That was a bit fast.

Just because you fly a lot with one airline doesn't make you above anyone else who flys with them, no matter if you think it does!!!!!!!!

And just because you always fly with the airline offering the best value, never attaining status with any airline, doesn't mean you should expect to get into a lounge at any time, whether comped through people you've never met or because there's someone nice working at the door.

 

[UP4014]

I have been to over 50 plus countries, and we take at least 20 flights a year. I would class my self as a frequent flyer...... I am howver not an elitist....

I think some people on here take 'their status' a little to serious perhaps??

Hi Annstan77,

Status needs earning and hence has a value, which guess what; gets you in the lounge. Getting in the lounge seems to be something you take seriously.

50 countries and 20 flights per year, if you'd joined up to a scheme it likely wouldn't take you long to make a status level that got you a benefit if you pooled you flights with an alliance group.

Everything has a cost/value somewhere to someone, if you don't think the lounge access is worth the membership cost then nothing else to say.

I think everyone should be able to ask for some freebies, but if you don't get any strangers to give you a freebie no need for comment.

Cheers,

Matt
PS, I haven't been to over 50 countries and probably don't fly 20 times per year, but you know what, I have a status level and lounge access.

 

[Flashback]

Here's my take on things. Apologies if anyone is offended.

A post requesting a Qantas Club pass (or several) by someone with no posting history or small posting history is never viewed well by forum regulars. Why? They cannot see what someone has contributed to the forum, and yep it is similar to someone sitting outside a train station asking for money.

I have found a lot of members here to be very generous at times with travel 'guff' (eg passes, amenity kits, guesting into clubs, assistance with planning, gifting of free upgrades etc). However, you will find that these things tend to occur when people 'know' each other through a series of posts, general assistance with flying matters etc.

The forum rules at AFF were changed a while ago to prohibit solicitation for QP guest passes:
The Australian Frequent Flyer Online Community - FAQ: Posting Guidelines - What's not permitted



perhaps Admin needs to make this rule more clearer.

All that aside, someone once bit me big time when I gifted them a free Qantas Club pass. They didn't use it, but instead sold it on ebay for a reasonable sum of cash, and then lied to me about how they used it when I sent an enquiry email. I have a PDF copy of the ebay page where they sold it, the picture on the ebay page had certain markings matching "rub marks" on the Qantas Club pass I'd gifted, the suburb matched up and the username matched a variant of their name.

I have had some good transactions where I've gifted passes without a problem though, but experiences like the one above make you think carefully about items and what you do with them...

That's very poor on their behalf!

Happy to report that my father enjoyed very much the pass you gave me via anat0l for our time in the SIN lounge

 

[munitalP]

Geez, I was going to ask someone for a pass to give to Mummy munitalP when she comes for holidays at Xmas - I'm scared to now! :shock:

Will QFF give me a pass if I ask - has anyone done this before?


Mr!

:?:

 

[ejb]

Geez, I was going to ask someone for a pass to give to Mummy munitalP when she comes for holidays at Xmas - I'm scared to now! :shock:

Will QFF give me a pass if I ask - has anyone done this before?


Mr!

:?:

I vote for you to try and report the findings.

ejb

 

[docjames]

I can report that users here are generous if you contribute (even a little).

(Thanks to those who know who they are - wont mention names for fear that'll cause you more solicitation!).


Note you're not the first newbie to be rejected when requesting free passes. I thought soliciting passes etc was outside forum rules.

http://www.frequentflyer.com.au/com...complimentary-pass-swap-17770.html#post241168

 

[JohnK]

Geez, I was going to ask someone for a pass to give to Mummy munitalP when she comes for holidays at Xmas - I'm scared to now! :shock:

Will QFF give me a pass if I ask - has anyone done this before?

Definitely not. Keep the bludgers out of the Qantas Lounge.

 

[serfty]

...

Note you're not the first newbie to be rejected when requesting free passes. I thought soliciting passes etc was outside forum rules.

http://www.frequentflyer.com.au/com...complimentary-pass-swap-17770.html#post241168

The intention was that requesting free passes is permitted but soliciting to purchase/barter/swap said passes is not.

http://www.frequentflyer.com.au/com...ram/commercial-posts-not-permitted-17272.html

 

[munitalP]

I vote for you to try and report the findings.

ejb

I called the number....

Mr! "hello - can you please give me a guest pass for my mum who will be flying on Dec 22, AKL/MEL - if you do give me one, I will fly her on QF, if you don't, I will look for an airline that I can buy her a pass into a lounge..."

QFF "Sorry Mr!, we don't do guest passes any more - I can't help, do you have a credit card or something you could get one from such as an AMEX?"

The conversation carried on for about 4 or 5 minutes exploring possible ways of a guest pass - I pointed out that last year, Mrs! dropped from PG to silver and was given a QP card valid for 3 months I think - shame it expired, Mrs! didn't even get to use it before she was PG again...

So, I expect that the answer is no - QF will not give me a guest pass for mummy munitalP regardless of how much I sweet talk them. I will try a lounge dragon on Monday morning at MEL and see if I get any luck there...

Definitely not. Keep the bludgers out of the Qantas Lounge. Today 03:48 PM

I fully intend to tell mummy munitalP what you said JohnK and I hope she chases you, catches you and puts her over her knee!

Mr!

 

[craven morehead]

"Need" Complimentary Invitation.....Not a very subtle tone applied here. Also not a very good way of going about extracting generosity from complete strangers. CM

 

[albatross710]

How about signing when there is a free joining offer on the Qantas Amex card. Make a flight purchase on Qantas and they legitimately issue you with 2 passes.

Was reminded of this today when I received in the post two complimentary QP passes after my fee free renewal this year and buying a work reimbursed Qantas tix on the card. Free + free.

I was most complementary of Qantas & Amex.

Now I can put that card away again for another year.

 

[ejb]

...So, I expect that the answer is no - QF will not give me a guest pass for mummy munitalP regardless of how much I sweet talk them. I will try a lounge dragon on Monday morning at MEL and see if I get any luck there...

Well at least we now know the answer.

If the lounge dragons don't come through PM me next week and I think I have one from when mrs ejb lost PG and dropped to PS.

ejb

 

[JohnK]

I fully intend to tell mummy munitalP what you said JohnK and I hope she chases you, catches you and puts her over her knee!

Is that a promise? Wouldn't be hard to catch me anyway. :mrgreen:

By the way I used your words not mine. And I still maintain the stance that I would go out of my way to help someone get in to a Qantas Lounge but would not hand out complimentary invitations to total strangers....

 

[Ric]

I called the number....

Mr! "hello - can you please give me a guest pass for my mum who will be flying on Dec 22, AKL/MEL - if you do give me one, I will fly her on QF, if you don't, I will look for an airline that I can buy her a pass into a lounge..."

Mr!,
Shouldn't QFF's answer be something like this: "No Sir, we don't have a guest pass but we do have a pass that you can buy for $350 (or whatever the figure) which is can be used over and over again for 12 months and we will will even issue the pass in a nice plastic card in a nice bronzy colour and send it out to you!" :mrgreen:

 

[Reggie]

And I still maintain the stance that I would go out of my way to help someone get in to a Qantas Lounge but would not hand out complimentary invitations to total strangers....

I will have to keep an eye out for when you will be in the lounges, and loiter outside until you come along to guest me in then.

Thanks in adavnce JohnK

 

[Annstan77]

Wow! It seems asking a simple question of 'need complimentary Invitation' has opened a huge can of worms! Which in the end I didn't even need as the nice lady in Singapore let us in..........

I am glad to see, there seems to be two strains of thought on here, People willing to help anybody regardless (well done to them) and still the arrogant nasties..... oh well everyone is entitled to their opinions hey.

Thanks Serfty

More thanwilling to give any advice or help on travelling just ask away.

My partner (who I met on the trip) and I travelled overland from London to Indonesia (ok I know its not flying....) and have had many an adventour.

Oh by the way, travelling with our 10 month old daughter this time, the lounges in Brisbane and Singapore did come in handy, so perhaps I will start to use that frequent flyer card of mine after all.