MU736 Return to SYD

[yohy?!]

Saw on twitter possible engine trouble from tonight's MU736 SYD-PVG

 

[yohy?!]

http://www.facebook.com/search/str/...amMzIl0sImNyY3QiOiJ0ZXh0IiwiY3NpZCI6bnVsbH0=#

Quite a bit of chatter on FB thread

 

[yohy?!]

https://twitter.com/S118869/status/873864637447421953

China Eastern flight #MU736 to Shanghai has safely landed in Sydney. Vacated at foxtrot and being followed by fire services.

https://twitter.com/S118869/status/873877703119720449

ATC Audio - "Engine 1 Fault"

 

[yohy?!]

 

[yohy?!]

 

[Aussie_flyer]

that looks pretty serious!!

 

[jb747]

From what I can see of the images, the fan looks to be ok. I wonder if it was something to do with the anti ice ducting around the engine. There have been a couple of unusual failures involving that over the past year or so, on various types and engines.

The ATC tape is quite funny. I know what I think he's saying, but it so sounds like "engine #1 fooked".

 

[Skyring]

From what I can see of the images, the fan looks to be ok. I wonder if it was something to do with the anti ice ducting around the engine. There have been a couple of unusual failures involving that over the past year or so, on various types and engines.

The ATC tape is quite funny. I know what I think he's saying, but it so sounds like "engine #1 fooked".

Indeed it is.

Thanks, JB. I was thinking with that damage and a fan failure, there would have to be some shredded fuselage to go with it, and we'd be reading a whole different story.

Looks like the actual engine casing is made of sterner stuff and that's the bit beginning at a more or less straight edge after the missing chunks?

I'm guessing that some of those chunks would have gone through the engine, possibly causing a bit more internal damage than the average seagull.

 

[Melburnian1]

Is there any estimate as to when this aircraft (A332) may be back operating flights?

 

[moa999]

Not quickly I suspect. At a minimum they need to flex in a new Trent engine and repair the reported flaps damage.

Can't borrow an engine off QF either as all QFs 330s are GE powered.

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As mentioned on AvHerald report
http://avherald.com/h?article=4aa3276e&opt=0

There was a very similar incident with an EgyptAir A332 in the last month, although in that case it was during takeoff roll and they were able to abort.
http://avherald.com/h?article=4a901212&opt=0

 

[Milboo]

I don't recall hearing anything out of the ordinary and I am under the flight path for 34 - at about 1,200 feet.

 

[yohy?!]

I don't recall hearing anything out of the ordinary and I am under the flight path for 34 - at about 1,200 feet.

apparently it happened right after rotation so likely too early for you to hear the implosion - lots of people reported hearing abnormal engine sounds on the FB thread as it circled to the south-west.

 

[jb747]

I was thinking with that damage and a fan failure, there would have to be some shredded fuselage to go with it, and we'd be reading a whole different story.

I guess the appropriate radio call in that case would be "aircraft fooked".

Looks like the actual engine casing is made of sterner stuff and that's the bit beginning at a more or less straight edge after the missing chunks?

It's part of the cowling, but not the engine casing. Quite lightweight...wouldn't stop anything. I punched a bird through it in a 767 years back.

I'm guessing that some of those chunks would have gone through the engine, possibly causing a bit more internal damage than the average seagull.

You'd expect some to have gone past the fan, but that doesn't mean it would reach the hot sections. About 80% of the air just goes through the fan, and then around the outside of the core.

 

[jb747]

There's daylight pictures around now, and the fan looks to be quite healthy. It's not an 'uncontained failure'. An Egyptair flight has been mentioned as similar, but so too is this...2016-08-27 Southwest B737 inflight engine casing separation over Florida » JACDEC

 

[jb747]

When you start to look, there's quite a history of this sort of failure....

 

[Melburnian1]

If there's a 'history', apart from the worry to passengers and crew, it must be costly to airlines or their insurers, or engine manufacturers. There's also the not so small matter of perceptions of those who purchase these engines and manufacturer reputations.

What action has occurred to try to minimise or eradicate such occurrences? Has the manufacturer made any significant changes to the design?

 

[kpc]

I actually think the audio highlighted how calm the captain remained.....he clearly said "fault" but I guess some like to poke fun at his accent.

 

[N860CR]

I actually think the audio highlighted how calm the captain remained.....he clearly said "fault" but I guess some like to poke fun at his accent.

Yes the level of blatant racism that the tabloid media has published is really frightening. I guess it appeals to the other 50%.

 

[Skyring]

When you start to look, there's quite a history of this sort of failure....View attachment 99168

Very grateful to jb747 for pointing out that it's not quite as bad as it looks!

Above it is said that the MU event happened just after rotation. I'm guessing that this might be the time when the pilot is pumping the accelerator fairly hard, and the less sturdy bits might vibrate loose.

 

[jb747]

I actually think the audio highlighted how calm the captain remained.....he clearly said "fault" but I guess some like to poke fun at his accent.

Telling ATC you have an engine fault is pretty pointless. They won't know what to do with the comment. The word we're poking fun at gets the message across in a very clear manner indeed.