Middle East Airspace Diversions/Cancellations

[lovestotravel]

The ME war has a major impact on awards on Sq.

Next August, I could only get an Advantage J award rtn Syd-Sin-Mxp.
Cost was 181K pts each way cf to 141K in Saver which was nowhere to be seen.

Yep much harder than it used to be now on SQ

Savers are around but the popular ones go at 355 days out within an hour or two of being available

 

[kpc]

Yep much harder than it used to be now on SQ

Savers are around but the popular ones go at 355 days out within an hour or two of being available

I booked at 355 days out at 10am EST
After that, there was not even Advantage!

 

[kamchatsky]

I booked at 355 days out at 10am EST
After that, there was not even Advantage!

SQ knows that they don't have to give Saver seats and people will still book Advantage anyway.

 

[kpc]

SQ knows that they don't have to give Saver seats and people will still book Advantage anyway.

The great (silent) devaluation of the Kris Flyer program. Plenty of Access awards

 

[SYD]

That would be my backup strategy if required. However, with 4 people that makes it $16K, and then more airfares between SYD-CGK or other SEA ports.

There's generally good CR availability SYD<->CGK (inc 4x J). In July 2027 there's probably still seats.

But for me, EK, EY, QR, RX, WY, GF are all out.

I have already secured 4 * CX J HKG-MAD awards, I just need to see if I can secure CX J coming back ..... But mid-July could be difficult as it is start of Northern Hemisphere summer holidays. Will see.

We recently successfully same day transferred on separate tickets at CGK - inbound CX (paid) to QF CR. Bit of a weird experience but worked.

 

[AIRwin]

Just saw this Emirates ad on TV:

EMIRATES: WHEN THE HEADLINES BECAME THE AD

Most airlines facing a year shaped by regional conflict, airspace disruption and difficult travel headlines might be tempted to keep the conversation narrowly focused on destinations and fares. Emirates did something more self-aware.

www.linkedin.com

 

[clifford]

Given th US' plans for Iran, I'd be wary of booking anything through the ME.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/us-israel-develop-plans-for-renewed-strikes-on-iran-after-midterm-elections-report/4096580

 

[kpc]

Just saw this Emirates ad on TV:

EMIRATES: WHEN THE HEADLINES BECAME THE AD

Most airlines facing a year shaped by regional conflict, airspace disruption and difficult travel headlines might be tempted to keep the conversation narrowly focused on destinations and fares. Emirates did something more self-aware.

www.linkedin.com

Are the UAE authorities still banning any comment / footage / coverage of the war on Iran? Will take more than a glitzy video to entice me back to UAE/ Qatar for now...

 

[elanshin]

Are the UAE authorities still banning any comment / footage / coverage of the war on Iran? Will take more than a glitzy video to entice me back to UAE/ Qatar for now...

The country has always had censorship. Most influencers just never really had to find out the hard way about it.

 

[Seat0B]

Nooooooooooooo! First the wedding, now the new Grandchild meet and greet. Why oh why does Seat Son stay there. For crying out loud he just bought a house. Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

 

[RooFlyer]

Given th US' plans for Iran, I'd be wary of booking anything through the ME.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/us-israel-develop-plans-for-renewed-strikes-on-iran-after-midterm-elections-report/4096580

I changed my stopover on 3-4 Nov to a transit on morning of 2 Nov a month or so back. <midterms being the 3rd>

 

[I love to travel]

Do people really think that everything will start up again in early November?

 

[Saab34]

Do people really think that everything will start up again in early November?

The period after the midterms as is about as unknown as yesterday.

If they lose both the Senate/House he will want to change the dialogue in the press so bombing the heck out of Iran will shift focus.

 

[jrfsp]

Do people really think that everything will start up again in early November?

Gulf nations brace for possible return to all-out war

The volatility around the Israeli and US midterm elections is fueling fears of renewed US-Israeli strikes on Iran in a short and intensive military campaign to push Tehran into concessions, with Iran vowing a devastating response against the Gulf nations.

www.euronews.com

Certainly a possibility….only the madmen know at this stage , I wouldn’t book to transit the ME

 

[offshore171]

We are looking at going to Europe next year. Despite I booked 4 * EK J MUC-DXB-HKG on Qantas points for July next year, my missus is absolutely adamant that we won't be transitting in the Middle East, and rather fly Y direct from Europe to Asia if required.

Note sure routes via SE Asia are much better though. They actually skirt closer to Iranian airspace than the ME3 do. And they overfly the Black Sea, which is also an active war zone.

Polar route probably the best right now. This usually entails going via Japan or Korea

 

[jrfsp]

Note sure routes via SE Asia are much better though. They actually skirt closer to Iranian airspace than the ME3 do. And they overfly the Black Sea, which is also an active war zone.

Polar route probably the best right now. This usually entails going via Japan or Korea

Now that Saudi airspace is also out of the picture for western airlines, the only route left is over Afghanistan, through flow managed uncontrolled airspace - similar to transiting oceanic airspace….