MH 777 missing - MH370 media statement

bass_ke · Mar 21, 2014

QF WP said:
markis10, why did the Bombardier lose so much height so quickly?

Flight Track Log

Given the time stamp and coordinates it looks like it may have returned to base and flightaware missed a stack of the return flight?

Maybe? Just a quick look

medhead · Mar 21, 2014

QF WP said:
I agree with jb747, this story appears to explain that it is highly improbable that either Mark Johnson or pax on MH370 were able to get connections: Were the Phones on Flight MH370 Ever Connected?

Having just watched ACI on QF32, they were at a rather low altitude, 7500 feet? Mobile connection should be possible at that range.

medhead · Mar 21, 2014

RooFlyer said:
I assume the comment is tongue-in-cheek, and that the "party members repaying donations" refers to this: pay-back-secret-rudd-donation-bill-shorten (but why Tony Abbott would want to divert attention from that, escapes me ).

But if not - possibly the reason for the announcement was because some-one might ask questions when they inevitably noticed that a bunch of Australian planes are making continuous sorties to the southern Indian Ocean at considerable cost and risk to those in the air. After which would come the equally inevitable cry of "Cover-up" "What are you hiding?" etc.

If no-one made any statement until "real parts were found" - wouldn't it be odd that an airliner disappears with a few hundred people and no-one says anything?

What about how they are discussing current operations?

markis10 · Mar 21, 2014

QF WP said:
markis10, why did the Bombardier lose so much height so quickly?

Flight Track Log

It didn't! just went out of coverage.

amaroo · Mar 21, 2014

Great to see a women on the Bridge Missing Malaysia plane: Captain says navy searching for survivors the old-fashioned way

fjc · Mar 21, 2014

From my very limited understanding, it appears that, if it did take the southern flight path, then it had to fly over Indonesia. Were there no radar intercepts there? Or was it like Malaysia where apparently nothing showed up on their radars as it flew over? Puzzled.

drron · Mar 21, 2014

Put the following two sets of coordinates into Google maps and see what you think:

40.0800° N, 116.5844° E
40.0800° S, 116.5844° E

Notice the locations and how similar the coordinates are except for one for letter!

Now that can't possibly be a coincidence

Except that the debris is at 90.57.37E some 2000km west of the southern coordinates.
As a comment on FT went I don't think it is a coincidence that Albany is south of Peking.

browski · Mar 21, 2014

fjc said:
From my very limited understanding, it appears that, if it did take the southern flight path, then it had to fly over Indonesia. Were there no radar intercepts there? Or was it like Malaysia where apparently nothing showed up on their radars as it flew over? Puzzled.

Yes the bizarre thing is that Malaysia quickly discounted eye-witnesses plane sighting in the Maldives because the chief of their defence force said that it did not show on their radar. However it never showed on anyone else's radar either!
Then 5 minutes later everyone is busily distracted looking around in circles off Perth because of 2 smudges on a photo.

drron · Mar 21, 2014

Malaysian press conference starting-
Live TV | Astro Awani

DrA · Mar 21, 2014

drron said:
Put the following two sets of coordinates into Google maps and see what you think:

Except that the debris is at 90.57.37E some 2000km west of the southern coordinates.
As a comment on FT went I don't think it is a coincidence that Albany is south of Peking.

Maybe it's just because it's Friday night and my brain is fried, but I have to ask...Huh? What on earth is in Albany? I know it gets naval vessels in port from time to time, but really?

drron · Mar 21, 2014

DrA said:
Maybe it's just because it's Friday night and my brain is fried, but I have to ask...Huh? What on earth is in Albany? I know it gets naval vessels in port from time to time, but really?

The Southern inverse of Peking is Albany,ie not where the debris was seen.

jb747 · Mar 21, 2014

Routes are normally automatically uploaded at the start of a flight. We check the waypoints. The total distance is also shown, as is the predicted fuel...so a reciprocal load would be pretty obvious.

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drron · Mar 21, 2014

So 2 Japanese P3s joining search.2 chinese surveillance aircraft have arrived in KUL to join search in southern corridor.
HMS Echo on way to join search.

DrA · Mar 21, 2014

drron said:
The Southern inverse of Peking is Albany,ie not where the debris was seen.

Sure. I just seem to be missing the relevance considering the search area is some 2000 km west of Albany?

Buzzard · Mar 21, 2014

Why is the number 7 so prevalent in aircraft disasters?

markis10 · Mar 21, 2014

drron said:
So 2 Japanese P3s joining search.2 chinese surveillance aircraft have arrived in KUL to join search in southern corridor.
HMS Echo on way to join search.

There are also 5 Chinese warships with three helicopters on their way.

medhead · Mar 21, 2014

fjc said:
From my very limited understanding, it appears that, if it did take the southern flight path, then it had to fly over Indonesia. Were there no radar intercepts there? Or was it like Malaysia where apparently nothing showed up on their radars as it flew over? Puzzled.

Not really. It could have flown around Indonesia.

DrA said:
Sure. I just seem to be missing the relevance considering the search area is some 2000 km west of Albany?

The relevance is because people are saying that southern inverse is in the search area. That was the point of saying it's Albany.

mannej · Mar 21, 2014

Buzzard said:
Why is the number 7 so prevalent in aircraft disasters?

You could say the same for the number 191...

markis10 · Mar 21, 2014

I wonder whats caught the attention on board the GLEX to make it stay another 5 hours down in the search area, now due back after 7PM Perth time.

VH-TGG(Track inbound flight)
GANDEL INVESTMENTS PTY. LTD. (all flights) · Australia

Perth Int'l (YPPH / PER – info)
Redcliffe, Western Australia AU

Scheduled:	08:30 WST

Scheduled:	14:13 WST

Other flights between these airports
Duration: 11 hours 7 minutes
Friday, 21 March 2014

Status	result unknown (?) (track log & graph)
Aircraft	Bombardier Global Express (twin-jet) (GLEX – photos)
Speed	Filed: 485 kts (graph)
Altitude	Filed: 40,000 feet (graph)
Distance	Direct: 0 km Planned: 0 km

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Sprucegoose · Mar 21, 2014

markis10 said:
There are also 5 Chinese warships with three helicopters on their way.

The chinese have a direct vested interest. Good to see them mucking in.

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